Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

[369]

Spoiler alert: I am drunk and I got an email notification about this

You are both biased BUT

What if Russia didn't invade in the first place (the right thing to do) BTW I'm not defending any country like the US n their actions I'm just thinking that you all are forgetting why this happened in the first place. Russia thinks Ukraine is a part of their territory and they have a right to administer it. If this invasion didn't happen in the place, what would be bad? Would it realistically be bad for anyone? I'm geniunely curious. I'm sorry if I missed anything. Peace y'all.

nonsense like always.
all it took to have no war was not joining nato POINT.
russia gave dozens of warnings about it

 

[KDX]

nonsense like always.
all it took to have no war was not joining nato POINT.
russia gave dozens of warnings about it

Isn't Russia demanding more than just joining NATO? Btw what kind of threat does NATO pose to justify this kind of war? Most baltic states are NATO

Again, just curious.

 

[Golden Fleece]

In reality, it is far from being that simple. If you want to understand the conflict in Ukraine on more than simple propaganda level, I suggest to watch this George Friedman's talk. It is a bit old and irrelevant at times but explains roots of the current conflict quite well in my opinion.

Great video. I am a fan of George Friedman and I have read several of his books, including his last one, "The Storm Before the Calm."

If you listen to his answer to the last question (during the last few minutes of the video), it seems that Russia's invasion of Ukraine just forced Germany to choose a side, much to Russia's detriment. According to Friedman, that choice (by Germany) would decide the future of Russia.

nonsense like always.
all it took to have no war was not joining nato POINT.
russia gave dozens of warnings about it

Nonsense like always. All it took for you not to be beaten to a pulp was to allow your wife to be raped. The rapists gave you plenty of warning not to interfere. But you refused to listen. So, it's all your fault.

 

[KDX]

nonsense like always.
all it took to have no war was not joining nato POINT.
russia gave dozens of warnings about it

Nonsense? LMAO. Invading countries is somehow ok? What the f**k are you on about? You are literally sober and still saying all this

 

[Golden Fleece]

Nonsense? LMAO. Invading countries is somehow ok? What the f**k are you on about? You are literally sober and still saying all this

I hope that 369 lives long enough to see this high-likelihood scenario play out: In about thirty years, China claims all of Siberia and warns Russia to evacuate. After twelve warnings, China invades Siberia and quickly overruns it with its massive superiority in manpower, armor, air superiority, and technology.

Russia could have prevented the war, but chose not to listen to China's twelve warnings. But 369 is happy because the Chinese gave Russia ample warnings to avert a war. But a stubborn Russia refused to listen.

After all, China needs Siberia as a "buffer zone" to prevent Russia from waging the same type of aggressive war against China that Russia waged against Ukraine.

 

[369]

NEWS
Should Le Pen win elections in France she will resume taking oil and gas from Russia.
So i guess the sanction will end next sunday

 

[Golden Fleece]

NEWS
Should Le Pen win elections in France she will resume taking oil and gas from Russia.
So i guess the sanction will end next sunday

I hope that she wins. Macron is a socialist imbecile. French socialism has clearly failed. Oddly enough, the statists describe the National Rally as a "far-right" party, but it still promotes many big government welfare policies and some left-wing economic policies. At this point, almost anything is better than business as usual.

 

[Golden Fleece]

Sixty elite Russian paratroopers refused to fight in the invasion of Ukraine.

Up to 60 Russian paratroopers from one unit in Pskov province refused to fight in Ukraine, according to independent Russian newspaper Pskovskaya Gubernia. The troops were fired, and some were threatened with criminal prosecution for desertion or failure to comply with an order, the paper wrote on its Telegram channel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=cd62e4b47bb24cd0b46235d245ff4d24

 

[RealDude]

Australia, Netherlands start UN action against Russia over MH17​

Australia and the Netherlands said on Monday they had begun joint legal action against Russia at the United Nations over the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 eight years ago.

The Boeing 777 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on July 17, 2014, when it was hit over rebel-held eastern Ukraine by what international investigators and prosecutors say was a Russian-made surface-to-air missile, killing all 298 on board.

https://www.reuters.com/world/austr...ction-against-russia-downing-mh17-2022-03-14/

 

[John Spectre]

https://youtube.com/channel/UCjsWGz8QrI_1RwQY88M1GFwTons of videos captured from the UAV in different towns in north part of Ukraine which showing thousand of houses destroyed by russians.

And again for prorussians: don't strain your meager brain to comment on this post.

 

[ImKing]

well, I hope they soon give up and we can get peace!!!

 

[Gediminas]

ha ha putins military power has no real opposition in europe

have been away for some time, now back to reading and I just can't stop being amazed

WOW! WHAT AN ARMY RUSSIANS HAVE! AMAZING POWER! AMAZING SOLDIERS WHO RAPE CHILDREN AND THE REST OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.

BRAVO!

You are right this time, there is no opposition in Europe on that, you genius.

I'm amazed at how much all of these Russia lovers are desperately trying to justify the war. Hilarious.

Just blame the US and West for anything and its all good!

exactly. I tend to believe most of them are trolls.

369 is correct.

Every bit of info regarding bombing civilians gets debunked within 24 hours.

If the Russians were genuinely targetting civilians, we'd see the devastation much more easily. There are guys in Kharkiv right now reporting the facts, and they do so from places with working internet, electricity and running water. Weird huh!

Are there civilian casualties? Yes, unfortunately. Some get caught up in it, some are mistakes, and many are because the governments of the west who have been telling you for years you don't need guns are now encouraging civilians to go try to shoot a tank with a paintball gun.

Azovs using civilians as human shields, however? Confirmed.

Don't be ignorant pretending to think you read the true facts online. I happen to know many Ukrainians abroad, including wives whose husbands and sons are now protecting their homeland in Ukraine. And I know first hand what horror stories happen here.

I wish your close ones (especially females - mother, wife, daughter, etc) won't be facing this horror anytime in your life! I hope you won't need to suffer facing how mad soldiers are raping them.

I have no emotions now, just stating facts and wishing you the best, buddy.

I am still wondering what these Oligarchs are accused of. Knowing Putin? Money laundering?

Probably because they are nominee wallets of the dictator? And because their wealth was gained through direct corruption?

Just don't start this "haha nobody knows that"... I am just using my logic to answer your question.

Russia is winning the war

I am still laughing. Excuse me.

 

[369]

have been away for some time, now back to reading and I just can't stop being amazed

WOW! WHAT AN ARMY RUSSIANS HAVE! AMAZING POWER! AMAZING SOLDIERS WHO RAPE CHILDREN AND THE REST OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.

BRAVO!

You are right this time, there is no opposition in Europe on that, you genius.



exactly. I tend to believe most of them are trolls.



Don't be ignorant pretending to think you read the true facts online. I happen to know many Ukrainians abroad, including wives whose husbands and sons are now protecting their homeland in Ukraine. And I know first hand what horror stories happen here.

I wish your close ones (especially females - mother, wife, daughter, etc) won't be facing this horror anytime in your life! I hope you won't need to suffer facing how mad soldiers are raping them.

I have no emotions now, just staking facts and wishing you the best, buddy.



Probably because they are nominee wallets of the dictator? And because their wealth was gained through direct corruption?

Just don't start this "haha nobody knows that"... I am just using my logic to answer your question.



I am still laughing. Excuse me.

You clearly delivered undeniable facts.
Congrats on that

 

[Gediminas]

You clearly delivered undeniable facts.
Congrats on that

 

[JamesDonkey]

@Gediminas

if you claim that all things work against the russian army, why have Europe, Ukraine and US been so preoccupied with this situation in the first place? Why have Europe, Ukraine and US not defeated it yet? A weak and disorganized army which belongs to a weak country, which you claim all that to be so, must've been easy to defeat. No?

What has everyone been worried about? And why are you, GoldenGoose, RealDude and some others, posting here at all?

 

[Gediminas]

@Gediminas

if you claim that all things work against the russian army, why have Europe, Ukraine and US been so preoccupied with this situation in the first place? Why have Europe, Ukraine and US not defeated it yet? A week army is easy to defeat. No?

What has everyone been worried about? And why are you posting here?

Don't put your words to my mouth, sir.

 

[polonieth]

Russia is winning the war easily. Have they had small setbacks and tactical mistakes? Of course, they are up against a numerically large and trained force. But they are dominating easily. It will probably be recorded as one of the best invasions in military history once people look at it objectively in the future and all the virtue signalling for Ukraine is over.

 

[KDX]

I think most of the pro-Russians here have forgot 1 thing.

What if Russia just didn't invade or would just stop now? What are the reasons for not doing those?

They only talk about how Ukraine has also bla bla but never have talked about Russia just getting the f**k out of there? Why is that not an option?

Russia is winning the war easily. Have they had small setbacks and tactical mistakes? Of course, they are up against a numerically large and trained force. But they are dominating easily. It will probably be recorded as one of the best invasions in military history once people look at it objectively in the future and all the virtue signalling for Ukraine is over.

Best invasions in history? I'm not sure about that... it looks quite messy

 

[polonieth]

I think most of the pro-Russians here have forgot 1 thing.

What if Russia just didn't invade or would just stop now? What are the reasons for not doing those?

They only talk about how Ukraine has also bla bla but never have talked about Russia just getting the f**k out of there? Why is that not an option?

Because they've tried diplomacy for the last god knows how many years, Yet the west, nato and the NGOs kept poking away. So it looks to me like they felt like they had no other choice.

 

[KDX]

Because they've tried diplomacy for the last god knows how many years, Yet the west, nato and the NGOs kept poking away. So it looks to me like they felt like they had no other choice.

So Russia has the right to invade countries around it if they join NATO? What poking? As if Russia hasn't taken Crimea etc? Are you saying Ukraine should've taken Russias "security guarantees" or whatever lol? Or wait was it Belarus?