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Free residence permit on the table: Mother Russia welcomes you
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Of course, I will immediately send a copy of the permit to all the banks I use and contribute to make the great West Russia-free
Have a friend, won't say which nation except saying its not the US, so i don't have my door kicked down.
PhD, Security Clearance and a really intelligent person working in a specialist field that provides dual purpose (space, military).
For the past four years he's been trying to get me to move to his country (my skillset) and i've pointed out i don't wish to join the rat race explaining how toxic living in the country (west in general is) and how in touch with nature etc i am and prosperous due to the lack of debasement etc, suffocating taxes etc.
Past year he finally clicked over what i was saying, then started murmurs of pointing towards Russia, naturally i pointed out it would be treason as my skillset is dual purpose but would essentially be a technology transfer just because my mind and my hands can created it, and although it has a semblance of Judea christianity as its foundations, it was inherently a country which wasn't easy to escape from during the communist era, in addition i wouldn't swap authoritarian for more authoritarian, i'd much prefer to float around Africa, middle east, and Asia and experience different shades of authoritarians but be free to leave.
The Russian Gov dropped their document / site and i took one look at it this morning first call was with him where i pointed out the following aspects.
1) At least 5 pages in passport for visa -> Erm can you imagine the red flags that will begin ringing the moment you have Russian stamps in your passport and start travelling out of Russia to the West, it would flag across the system load especially with a specific skillset the West is frightened of being lost to the Russians or the Russians getting a enhancement that the West hasn't considered from their won existing people work load skillset.
-> should be like Israel, separate document (digital best)
2) Police Background check - > can you imagine what would happen if when asking for a bg check doc they ask why and you say for Russia residence visa and you have a security clearance and/or are PhD and/or are a specialist in a specific field (of science) etc which is dual purpose to the extreme, and if you lie when asked why thats a criminal act.
3) Funds have to have source of Wealth -> i pointed out its almost impossible to move funds into Russia, let alone out of your own country, for one the limit of carry is 10k i remarked that if you tried to withdraw in cash 2,000 x from the bank the bank manager will be drilling into what for and why, and you'd likely be flagged, let alone multiple x,xxx over time, or even one large withdrawal, and that's cash, now how do you transfer that into Russia and in What currency, i then pointed out you could do it via Bank to HK from HK to Shanghai from Shanghai to Moscow using the current system that is jerry rigged up, but can you imagine the bank(s) questions when all of a sudden you are transferring a couple of hundred k to Hong Kong when there's no history of association previously and the likely freezes or heightened security, and with the fees 5%, lastly i said crypto but then you'd be hit with tax in Russia, likewise imagine trying to display all / track this source of wealth over those multiple jumps and hoops and conversions and proving it when in Russia where they can literally willy nilly seize it.
At the end of the call i pointed out, until such time as Russia (and this doesn't just apply to Russia but countries like El Salvador even) give you a passport/citizenship on arrival its all just marketing and not seriously trying to get skilled labour/families in.
Lastly i'd like to point out, if the war ends and sanctions are removed i see Russia as a place where one with certain skillsets can make a fortune quickly, BUT to walk away from the West is IMO to condemn friends, family for you are then against them (the country is a broader point).
I ofcourse am happy to be paid for the privilege of shorting the f**k out of the West.
The moral of this story - there are some serious people with some serious skillsets that are dissatisfied enough to even look at it, i am not expressing that he is intending to do such
PhD, Security Clearance and a really intelligent person working in a specialist field that provides dual purpose (space, military).
For the past four years he's been trying to get me to move to his country (my skillset) and i've pointed out i don't wish to join the rat race explaining how toxic living in the country (west in general is) and how in touch with nature etc i am and prosperous due to the lack of debasement etc, suffocating taxes etc.
Past year he finally clicked over what i was saying, then started murmurs of pointing towards Russia, naturally i pointed out it would be treason as my skillset is dual purpose but would essentially be a technology transfer just because my mind and my hands can created it, and although it has a semblance of Judea christianity as its foundations, it was inherently a country which wasn't easy to escape from during the communist era, in addition i wouldn't swap authoritarian for more authoritarian, i'd much prefer to float around Africa, middle east, and Asia and experience different shades of authoritarians but be free to leave.
The Russian Gov dropped their document / site and i took one look at it this morning first call was with him where i pointed out the following aspects.
1) At least 5 pages in passport for visa -> Erm can you imagine the red flags that will begin ringing the moment you have Russian stamps in your passport and start travelling out of Russia to the West, it would flag across the system load especially with a specific skillset the West is frightened of being lost to the Russians or the Russians getting a enhancement that the West hasn't considered from their won existing people work load skillset.
-> should be like Israel, separate document (digital best)
2) Police Background check - > can you imagine what would happen if when asking for a bg check doc they ask why and you say for Russia residence visa and you have a security clearance and/or are PhD and/or are a specialist in a specific field (of science) etc which is dual purpose to the extreme, and if you lie when asked why thats a criminal act.
3) Funds have to have source of Wealth -> i pointed out its almost impossible to move funds into Russia, let alone out of your own country, for one the limit of carry is 10k i remarked that if you tried to withdraw in cash 2,000 x from the bank the bank manager will be drilling into what for and why, and you'd likely be flagged, let alone multiple x,xxx over time, or even one large withdrawal, and that's cash, now how do you transfer that into Russia and in What currency, i then pointed out you could do it via Bank to HK from HK to Shanghai from Shanghai to Moscow using the current system that is jerry rigged up, but can you imagine the bank(s) questions when all of a sudden you are transferring a couple of hundred k to Hong Kong when there's no history of association previously and the likely freezes or heightened security, and with the fees 5%, lastly i said crypto but then you'd be hit with tax in Russia, likewise imagine trying to display all / track this source of wealth over those multiple jumps and hoops and conversions and proving it when in Russia where they can literally willy nilly seize it.
At the end of the call i pointed out, until such time as Russia (and this doesn't just apply to Russia but countries like El Salvador even) give you a passport/citizenship on arrival its all just marketing and not seriously trying to get skilled labour/families in.
Lastly i'd like to point out, if the war ends and sanctions are removed i see Russia as a place where one with certain skillsets can make a fortune quickly, BUT to walk away from the West is IMO to condemn friends, family for you are then against them (the country is a broader point).
I ofcourse am happy to be paid for the privilege of shorting the f**k out of the West.
The moral of this story - there are some serious people with some serious skillsets that are dissatisfied enough to even look at it, i am not expressing that he is intending to do such
You can easily do this with crypto.
Buy crypto in your country, and later cash out in a Russian exchange.
Read my part about Taxes on that in Russia.
In Russia, the taxation of cryptocurrency depends on whether the individual or entity is engaged in personal transactions or business activities involving digital assets. As of 2024:
- For Individuals:
- A 13% personal income taxis applied to profits from cryptocurrency transactions. This tax is only due when the cryptocurrency is converted into fiat currency
Fiat is defined as Roubles. So USDC *(crypto)* -> Roubles = 13% ++
Same approach taken in many countries such as Thailand, india etc, they don't consider stablecoins as 'fiat' legally.
Plus moving USDC/USDT into Russia would be violating sanctions for the person transferring their wealth as they'd be interacting with sanctioned entities.
You’ll have to prove that - and you’ll also be committing sanctions violations (second point) as you will be interacting with sanctioned entities
Just to add additional context.
From a generic Western perspective, citizens of Western countries who transfer money or cryptocurrency into Russia, especially during the current sanctions regime, could face several legal and financial consequences. Here’s how it might unfold:
1. Violation of Sanctions Regulations
- Interacting with Sanctioned Entities: Most Western countries, including the U.S., EU, and the UK, have imposed sanctions against Russian financial institutions, businesses, and individuals. Any transfer of funds, whether cryptocurrency or traditional money, into Russia through sanctioned entities (such as banks or exchanges) could violate these sanctions. Violating these rules could result in significant penalties. For instance:
- U.S. Penalties: The U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) imposes hefty fines, and in extreme cases, individuals could face criminal prosecution with potential prison time for willful violations of sanctions laws.
- EU Penalties: European countries enforce similar sanctions, and violations can lead to asset freezes, fines, or other enforcement actions
2. Maintaining Assets in the West
- Asset Freezing and Seizure: Any assets still held in Western jurisdictions (e.g., bank accounts, property, or investments) could be subject to freezing or confiscation if authorities discover that the individual has violated sanctions by transferring funds into Russia. The legal systems in countries like the U.S., UK, and across the EU give authorities the power to seize assets connected to sanctioned violations, and these assets might be difficult or impossible to reclaim
3. Post-War and Post-Sanction Repercussions
- Legal Consequences After Sanctions Lift: If the individual were to attempt to return to their home country or another Western country after the war and sanctions end, they could still be held accountable for prior violations. Sanctions violations are often prosecuted retroactively, meaning they might face investigation or legal action even after sanctions are lifted. This could include:
- Fines or penalties for past violations.
- Criminal charges if the violations were willful and significant.
- Restrictions on travel or further business dealings due to their prior sanctions breaches
4. Dual Residency and Citizenship Issues
- Complications with Dual Residency/Citizenship: Holding residency in Russia while still being a citizen of a Western country complicates things. Even if they are residing in Russia under a visa or residency permit, they remain subject to the laws of their home country. If that country has sanctions against Russia, maintaining business relationships or engaging in financial transactions with sanctioned entities violates home-country laws, which could trigger legal action against them in absentia
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Which comes back to = its a gimmick
If Russia was serious they'd offer immediate citizenship.
If a emigrating person was serious they'd take up that citizenship and renounce their existing immediately, they won't likely be able to return to the West (digital curtain?) either way.
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Give me Zimbabwe, Kenya, Botswana any day where i am void of the craziness of the West and am not castrating myself to life looking at *Igor.
*at my table the other evening for Octoberfest, there was some Russians, odd how they all look the same lol
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Nice try! Nobody will disclose sensitive personal information regarding the West government's "perceived" ***enemies***!
We are ALL aware of this:
and this:
The legal or law parlance for people who monitor online spaces to bait dissidents into revealing their political beliefs for government targeting is an agent provocateur.
This refers to individuals who deliberately provoke or incite others to commit or disclose actions that can later be used against them, often to be used as leverage in entrapment cases.
Furthermore, state surveillance may be used to describe the broader activity of monitoring dissidents online. In some contexts, it may also involve cyber entrapment or online espionage.
Better luck next time!
PS. Legend: Their definition of the word ***enemies*** here is the sophistry/casuistry definition of indomitable potential "slaves." Their definition is directly related to their divorced logic on the SCOTUS Dred Scott case in the illogical and absurd meaning of how Sanford and his sister, Irene Emerson, the widow of John Emerson, labeled Dred Scott, who would NOT allow himself to be abused & enslaved after the passing of his "owner" John Emerson, an army surgeon. So, if you REFUSE to be financially sodomized, abused, and enslaved, you WILL be labeled as an anarchist and an enemy by useless, unproductive, weak, cuckold, dastardly, self-appointed low-testosterone gang members under the ruse of government. How do you like them apples?
There are NO mutes in prison! EVER!
PS. I know way too many Brazilians, Chinese, Indians, Arabs, and AFFs (an Acquaintance of a Friend of a Friend
) who not only do business with Russia daily but also go there via non-Western countries, have homes there, have residency there, etc. Of course, the AFFs exclusively use crypto.
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List of countries that impose non-traditional views (relevant for the visa) :
1. Australia
2. Austria
3. Albania
4. Andorra
5. Bahamas
6. Belgium
7. Bulgaria
8. United Kingdom (including British Crown dependencies and British Overseas Territories)
9. Germany
10. Greece
11. Denmark
12. Ireland
13. Iceland
14. Spain
15. Italy
16. Canada
17. Cyprus
18. Latvia
19. Lithuania
20. Liechtenstein
21. Luxembourg
22. Malta
23. Micronesia
24. Monaco
25. Netherlands
26. New Zealand
27. Norway
28. Poland
29. Portugal
30. Republic of Korea (South Korea)
31. Romania
32. San Marino
33. North Macedonia
34. Singapore
35. Slovenia
36. United States of America
37. Taiwan
38. Ukraine
39. Finland
40. France
41. Croatia
42. Montenegro
43. Czech Republic
44. Switzerland
45. Sweden
46. Estonia
47. Japan
1. Australia
2. Austria
3. Albania
4. Andorra
5. Bahamas
6. Belgium
7. Bulgaria
8. United Kingdom (including British Crown dependencies and British Overseas Territories)
9. Germany
10. Greece
11. Denmark
12. Ireland
13. Iceland
14. Spain
15. Italy
16. Canada
17. Cyprus
18. Latvia
19. Lithuania
20. Liechtenstein
21. Luxembourg
22. Malta
23. Micronesia
24. Monaco
25. Netherlands
26. New Zealand
27. Norway
28. Poland
29. Portugal
30. Republic of Korea (South Korea)
31. Romania
32. San Marino
33. North Macedonia
34. Singapore
35. Slovenia
36. United States of America
37. Taiwan
38. Ukraine
39. Finland
40. France
41. Croatia
42. Montenegro
43. Czech Republic
44. Switzerland
45. Sweden
46. Estonia
47. Japan
For those interested, here are the sources
publication.pravo.gov.ru
publication.pravo.gov.ru
Указ Президента Российской Федерации от 19.08.2024 № 702 ∙ Официальное опубликование правовых актов
Указ Президента Российской Федерации от 19.08.2024 № 702 "Об оказании гуманитарной поддержки лицам, разделяющим традиционные российские духовно-нравственные ценности"
Распоряжение Правительства Российской Федерации от 17.09.2024 № 2560-р ∙ Официальное опубликование правовых актов
Распоряжение Правительства Российской Федерации от 17.09.2024 № 2560-р
those who go there will be a potential exchange fund in the future
He means that you will be caught for communicating with residents of unfriendly counties and then exchanged in a prisoner exchange with spies.
You can check any western news outlet like this one
It is ultimately up to you whom and what you believe. Of course those news do not necessarily represent the Russian view.
Maybe check this one to get all opinions
How the world reacted to Russia-West prisoner swap
Western countries and rights groups welcome the release of dissidents and journalists, including Evan Gershkovich.
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I know what he means . But I want to hear his reasoning . But communicating with residents of unfriendly countries is no crime . A lot of Russians have relatives in these countries and especially in the Baltic countries . They still have a rule of law . Just mind your own business and don't be an activist regarding the war in Ukraine . If they want some prisoners for a exchange , they will just take the opposition liberals . The west goes crazy after them .
You are talking to the wall.
These guys even don't understand what mean in russian form 'non-traditional views' and they naively believe that they do not fall under this definition
So you aren't able to assemble a decent car (before the war Russians imported Western cars, now they are importing Chinese ones) but nevertheless call someone who invented automotive conveyor a century ago stupid. Nothing wrong with that at all.
they probably interviewed like 1000 people and chose interviewers that said such things. Or maybe they are paid actors. It's all a show. Trying to show to Americans how bad Russia is and create conflict so that they get distracted and don't fight the satanic elites that exploit them. Of course the same other way around, in Russia, constant threat, spies are hiding under your bed! I wish people were not that stupid and would not allow themselves to be played around like this.
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