Secure chat to replace wickr

[Marie Manila]

does it still exist? I remember you could find useful resources there back in the time when smartphones didn’t exist

Yes, ICQ still exists and they have a smartphone App: ICQ Video Calls & Chat Rooms - Apps on Google Play
But I wouldn't recommend it either.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

But I wouldn't recommend it either.

Because Putin will use it for harassing me or for other reasons?

 

[Marie Manila]

Because Putin will use it for harassing me or for other reasons?

As far as I know, it does not provide e2e encryption. Only transport layer encryption.
Look here: Is ICQ Safe? Find Out About ICQ New and How Secure the New App Is

 

[Simon4466]

Already mentioned but am only here to confirm: Session is the only good app to replace wickr if not BETTER! No sign up details needed!

 

[diatessaron]

does it still exist? I remember you could find useful resources there back in the time when smartphones didn’t exist

Yes, it still is alive, plenty of information in there nowadays too but of the low quality, nothing you probably don't know.

And I had forgotten about keet.io, someone might find it useful.

 

[JackAlabama]

https://keet.io/p2p chat, no server

 

[Faruk]

https://keet.io/p2p chat, no server

Did you try this? Its the project run by Paolo from Bitfinex and Tether. Last time I checked it had only windows app

 

[JackAlabama]

Did you try this? Its the project run by Paolo from Bitfinex and Tether. Last time I checked it had only windows app

Yes, it works well. They have mac and linux now.

 

[DarkRevoMan]

Yes, it works well. They have mac and linux now.

You might like jitsi meet as well. No install needed, no account needed, E2E. 500 participants.

 

[JackAlabama]

You might like jitsi meet as well. No install needed, no account needed, E2E. 500 participants.

yah, I do. its nice too. I use it quite a lot.
Can also be used as self hosted.

 

[bismark]

someone also recommended crypviser

 

[JohnnyDoe]

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Nice one, unfortunately they forgot to include Session

 

[fanban]

Can we use Wickr and Session for Video call like Skype and MS meet ? if not, what would be a secured video call program ?

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Can we use Wickr and Session for Video call like Skype and MS meet ? if not, what would be a secured video call program ?

Yes you can. But you should forget Wickr as new users cant register after 31 dec 22 and it will be discontinued on 31 dec 23

 

[fanban]

Yes you can. But you should forget Wickr as new users cant register after 31 dec 22 and it will be discontinued on 31 dec 23

I only need it for a single video call during the next weeks after that I don't have a need for such for some time.

 

[Mr Eros]

Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless. So the good chat is a popular chat in the first place. Just whatsapp and skype can encompass 70% of the earth population. And if you need some specific markets such as China, Thailand or Philippines, you could always add relevant apps such as wechat, line, viber to be covered completely.

IMHO it's a mere bs to overthink regarding security. All popular chats are encrypted and secure enough to keep your conversations private. If you are someone like Pablo Escobar and one day CIA decided to track you down, "secure" chat or protonmail wouldn't help you.

 

[OffshoreMonero]

Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless.

Exactly.

You'll end up installing the top 3 most popular ones to cover 60% of your contacts, and if you're like me, you will have to nag people to install at least one of them.

1. Buy a Pixel phone and prepaid anonymous SIM with cash.

2. Wipe the device before you insert the SIM and install Graphene OS. It's not as hard as it sounds.

3. Install the top 3 most secure chat apps that you need and move on with your life.

This is honestly the best you can do at this time.

 

[DarkRevoMan]

Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless. So the good chat is a popular chat in the first place. Just whatsapp and skype can encompass 70% of the earth population. And if you need some specific markets such as China, Thailand or Philippines, you could always add relevant apps such as wechat, line, viber to be covered completely.

IMHO it's a mere bs to overthink regarding security. All popular chats are encrypted and secure enough to keep your conversations private. If you are someone like Pablo Escobar and one day CIA decided to track you down, "secure" chat or protonmail wouldn't help you.

1. If your business contacts can't take reasonable precautions to protect sensitive information, are they really worth doing business with?

2. Privacy isn't measured in absolutes. Just because you can't mitigate 100% of threats, doesn't mean you shouldn't take reasonable steps to stay safe. It's kind of like saying don't bother locking your door because someone can still break the window. The more steps you can take, the better.

3. I wouldn't suggest using whatsapp due to their policy on pen registering (they keep a list of who you contact, and when). I wouldn't suggest Skype.

4. There are tons of reasons to want to ensure privacy and confidentiality other than being Pablo Escobar.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

1. If your business contacts can't take reasonable precautions to protect sensitive information, are they really worth doing business with?

2. Privacy isn't measured in absolutes. Just because you can't mitigate 100% of threats, doesn't mean you shouldn't take reasonable steps to stay safe. It's kind of like saying don't bother locking your door because someone can still break the window. The more steps you can take, the better.

3. I wouldn't suggest using whatsapp due to their policy on pen registering (they keep a list of who you contact, and when). I wouldn't suggest Skype.

4. There are tons of reasons to want to ensure privacy and confidentiality other than being Pablo Escobar.

To be printed, framed and hung on the wall

 

[OffshoreMonero]

There's also a big difference between people who refuse to encrypt and keep affairs private and those who are willing to let you guide them to install X, Y, or Z to get business done.

The former is a lost cause, and I walk from doing business with such people also.