Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

[KDX]

You don't like the BBC?
here's another from the BBC

And we can only imagine what money it takes to substain such a militia for so many years. Well armed, as we now heard all over the place. By the US, too. Training paid by them, too (there are evidence).
How do they say? Putin did? Oh, wait.. maybe Voldemort this time

??? Are you a real human or a robot?

 

[John Spectre]

200 people apparently in 2014. I don't think it's the same number today

it's a approximate number exactly for 2022.
In 2014 azov was a just volunteer battalion with less that 200 people total. And far even not every member preached nazi ideology.
So don't make an elephant out of a fly

You don't like the BBC?
here's another from the BBC

And we can only imagine what money it takes to substain such a militia for so many years. Well armed, as we now heard all over the place. By the US, too. Training paid by them, too (there are evidence).
How do they say? Putin did? Oh, wait.. maybe Voldemort this time

What a sense in posting 6-9 years old videos?

For your knowledge, in 2022:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector
1. Right sector is not part of UA armed forces.
2. Not part of police forces in Ukraine.
3. It do not represent any kind of government structure.
4. A lot of criminals who was in right sector actually in jail now.

If you so worry about Azov with 1k members and right sector with less than 10k members, why you even don't bother to russian nazi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unitywhich are more than 100k members?

And please, don't post the bulls**t about well armed.
even in the videos they have only camouflage wears and assault rifle.
You want to see well armed soldier by Ukrainian standards?
here it is:
https://i.redd.it/4pmfu894z1l81.jpg

??? Are you a real human or a robot?

he is not a robot, but the guy with very very tight connection with russia, that why he post such things.

 

[Golden Fleece]

Listen, a small number of Nazis are everywhere, just like communists and socialists. That does not mean anything, unless they take power -- and Nazis would still be preferable to communists.

So, stop all the Nazi stupidity. It is just a red herring that detracts from the important issues. And most of the people being called Nazis in Ukraine seem to be just patriotic nationalists. Perhaps a very small portion of them are true-believer Nazis.

But there are even Mongolian Nazis in Mongolia:

 

[KDX]

Listen, a small number of Nazis are everywhere, just like communists and socialists. That does not mean anything, unless they take power -- and Nazis would still be preferable to communists.

So, stop all the Nazi stupidity. It is just a red herring that detracts from the important issues. And most of the people being called Nazis in Ukraine seem to be just patriotic nationalists. Perhaps a very small portion of them are true-believer Nazis.

But there are even Mongolian Nazis in Mongolia:

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He's not interested in any facts that go against the Russian agenda, you can see it already. No matter what you tell him, he's only gonna badmouth 1 side and never talk about the other

 

[John Spectre]

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Can't wait for new threads with questions how to send/receive funds from 'north korea #2' aka russia.

Of course, this is not as interesting as running after a couple of dozen nationalists from Azov, but still. Lol.

 

[kkein]

He's not interested in any facts that go against the Russian agenda, you can see it already. No matter what you tell him, he's only gonna badmouth 1 side and never talk about the other

Have you even bothered to watch the first bbc video i linked? It's the reporter himself saying that about 200 of those people were neonazi, and this back in 2014. I'm not inventing anything.

 

[John Spectre]

Have you even bothered to watch the first bbc video i linked? It's the reporter himself saying that about 200 of those people were neonazi, and this back in 2014. I'm not inventing anything.

You are liar.
There is no such information in video that confirm 200 neonazi group.
Well, not first time in the thread from you.

 

[KDX]

You are liar.
There is no such information in video that confirm 200 neonazi group.
Well, not first time in the thread from you.

It's a waste of time trying to even communicate with him, it's literally like talking to a wall. He reminds me of Chinese netizens who will say Taiwan is a part of their PRC China and that nothing happened in Xinjiang and anything you say that opposes their views are western misinformation.

Have you even bothered to watch the first bbc video i linked? It's the reporter himself saying that about 200 of those people were neonazi, and this back in 2014. I'm not inventing anything.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/08/russian-tank-blows-up-civilian-car-kills-elderly-couple-ukraine/
Would you like to comment on this? Since you've posted plenty of stuff yourself, I'd like to know how you feel about this, or what about the looting? Is this what "denazification" looks like?

 

[Golden Fleece]

I do not understanding this debate over 200 neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Even if true, what does it matter? Even if there were 2,000 or 20,000 neo-Nazis in Ukraine, what does it matter? Ukraine has a population of 44 million people.

In the U.S., there are left-wing organizations (e.g., The Southern Poverty Law Center) who call almost everyone who disagrees with them Nazis, racists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc. But what else do you expect from fools?

 

[John Spectre]

I do not understanding this debate over 200 neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Even if true, what does it matter? Even if there were 2,000 or 20,000 neo-Nazis in Ukraine, what does it matter? Ukraine has a population of 44 million people.

In the U.S., there are left-wing organizations (e.g., The Southern Poverty Law Center) who call almost everyone who disagrees with them Nazis, racists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc. But what else do you expect from fools?

Because they can't found any sensible reason to abuse Ukraine/EU/US in the conflict and tried to found at least something that justify war.

Even if it was one Nazi for the whole country, they would have been screaming like crazy.


The fascists of the future will call themselves antifascists. - This is exactly about russians nowadays and those who support their actions.

Some pictures of bombing civil in Ukraine by russia:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/wor...ictures-devastation-kharkiv-kyiv-b986059.htmlChurch, hospital, train station, school, library, museum, houses, square.
"Demilitarization by russians."

 

[pipona]

The whole "denazification" pretext seemed to be a massively overblown excuse to invade. But the Ukrainian armed forces do indeed seem to have a bit of nazi problem:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501416825149693961

NATO does a girl power propaganda piece and the female soldiers are wearing these Black Sun patches. This isn't just Azov.

Here's another one. You go girl!:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502119576867385344

Ukraine's jewish population has always identified as russian and been highly distrustful of the ukrainian speakers in their country. Take that fwiw.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNTVbaZXwAE-Pyk?format=jpg&name=small

 

[ih8socialism]

The whole "denazification" pretext seemed to be a massively overblown excuse to invade. But the Ukrainian armed forces do indeed seem to have a bit of nazi problem:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1501416825149693961

NATO does a girl power propaganda piece and the female soldiers are wearing these Black Sun patches. This isn't just Azov.

Here's another one. You go girl!:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502119576867385344

Ukraine's jewish population has always identified as russian and been highly distrustful of the ukrainian speakers in their country. Take that fwiw.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNTVbaZXwAE-Pyk?format=jpg&name=small

But what about Wagner then? Russia should start denazifying itself first lmao

 

[JamesDonkey]

This topic reminds me of early days of little flu pro-vaxxers (there're 3 most active of them here):

nobody of them knows anything but everyone pretends that he does by looking at the situation only from 1 angle and who are also scrared to look at it from other angle, because that would make them wrong and look stupid -- in front of others, and in front of themselves. Hence, more and more facts that prove their point of view, and no facts that dispove it.

 

[John Spectre]

https://jewishunpacked.com/can-ukraine-have-a-nazi-problem-with-a-jewish-president/
Why nazi not a problem for a country where Jewish president.

@pipona,​

related to your pictures by order:
1. it's not a black sun, because reverted. rather some pagan patch.
2. according to the lines on the car, probably some old picture from ATO or something like that. Also shoulder patches similar to Azov.
3. here is a full picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNLQiQXXIAI9qXs?format=jpg&name=large
the picture is quite strange. After few days of battles for irpen that soldier have clean boots and wears despite the fact that at those days was rainy/snowy weather. Also his form do not show surname, rank, military division
look here with real soldiers, specially boots:
https://www.rbc.ua/static/ckef2/img/6_145.jpgso it's rather fake picture/soldier/etc

Ukraine's jewish population has always identified as russian and been highly distrustful of the ukrainian speakers in their country. Take that fwiw.

Are you Ukraine's jewish? I believe no, that's why, please, don't spread here lying information.

 

[Golden Fleece]

nobody of them knows anything but everyone pretends that he does by looking at the situation only from 1 angle and who are also scrared to look at it from other angle

I think that most people here can see things from multiple perspectives. For example, I think that most people agree that Ukraine should not join NATO and that Ukraine should be left as a neutral buffer zone between Russia and NATO. But nothing excuses a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

People are talking about 200 Nazis in Ukraine, while Putin literally just completed the transition of Russia to a fully fascist state under a dictator. The Russian leadership are the ones acting like Nazis.

From Alexey Kovalyov, a former editor for the Moscow Times and now an editor at Meduza, an independent news site formerly headquartered in Russia but now based in Latvia (the site has been blocked by the Russian government). Kovalyov was living in Moscow and escaped to Latvia last week as Putin’s regime imposed even heavier restrictions on press freedom. Even the threats to foreign journalism is completely unprecedented, even more so than during the period of the USSR.

All I know is that we’re in uncharted waters. All these major foreign media outlets, like the New York Times and the BBC, are fleeing Moscow. That’s never happened. The New York Times has had a bureau in Moscow throughout the entire 20th century, including three revolutions and two world wars and the entire Cold War. But now Moscow isn’t safe for the New York Times. I really don’t have the words to describe how unpredictable this situation is.

There has definitely been a shift. And I have to be honest, there were a handful of people here who have been warning about this for a long time, who were telling people like me that this was going to be a fascist dictatorship one day, and we’ve been dismissing these people. We were like, “Come on, Putin is a cynic, he’s evil in so many ways, but at least he’s a rational guy. All he wants to do is get himself insanely rich. He’s not going to do anything really drastic.”

But we were all fucking wrong. The alarmists were right all along, and almost every one of them is either dead or in jail or exiled.

https://www.vox.com/22967223/ukraine-russia-war-putin-propaganda-reallity

 

[John Spectre]

New day, new 'demilitarization' of civil objects by russians: houses, church, ambulance.

 

[troubled soul]

This war result change the world forever

 

[kkein]

You are liar.
There is no such information in video that confirm 200 neonazi group.
Well, not first time in the thread from you.

Minute 4.45. Obviously you haven't watched it, again. I should call for moderation on you.

 

[KDX]

Minute 4.45. Obviously you haven't watched it, again. I should call for moderation on you.

I love how you're ignoring all the other posts LOL

Actual robot

 

[John Spectre]

Minute 4.45. Obviously you haven't watched it, again. I should call for moderation on you.

I watched this video, that's why I called you liar before.
Subtitles is ON.
Snapshots youtube from the place where you call for nazi 'prove' attached, so even anyone don't need to watch the full video.

It's a said that 200 people affilated that political party "Swoboda". Not nazy, not other bulls**t. Not the not pro-Russian fiction.
Stop the slander!