Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

[Golden Fleece]

russians are real clowns now.
They crying because of temporarily closing their business due to sanctions, but don't care that they already destroyed business for hundreds of billions in Ukraine now by bombing and shooting to civil infrastructure.

Most normal Russians probably do not know what is happening because of Putin's news blackout.

In six months or so, it will be interesting to watch the Ukrainian army march into Moscow while petrified Moscovites plead for mercy and hang Vladimir Putin on meat hooks, like Benito Mussolini.

 

[John Spectre]

Most normal Russians probably do not know what is happening because of Putin's news blackout.

Russians knows that their country is in state of war against brotherhood country.
Is a fully enough to classified this as a unacceptable thing from their government even without big details.

In six months or so, it will be interesting to watch the Ukrainian army march into Moscow while petrified Moscovites plead for mercy and hang Vladimir Putin on meat hooks, like Benito Mussolini.

I don't think Ukrainians are wish to going to russia even if such possibility are available.
Ukraine only protect his land from russian plague.
War is worst thing that could take place in the world. No matter on what country it going on. Nothing good in invading another country.
Every soldier in Ukraine will prefer to put down weapon, return home to family and restore house/country after war.

 

[Martin Everson]

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War in Ukraine: Facebook to allow calls for violence against Putin​

The owner of Facebook and Instagram will allow users in some countries to call for violence against Vladimir Putin and Russian soldiers.

Meta says it has temporarily made allowances for some violent speech, like "death to the Russian invaders," that would usually break its rules.

However, it says it won't permit calls for violence against Russian civilians.

In response, Russia called on the US to stop the social media giant's "extremist activities".

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60702619
That tells you all you need to know about Facebook sadly . First they allow praise for Neo Nazi's (Ukrainian Azov battalion) and now they allow calls for violence against another human being. This is how FB claims to be socially responsible .

 

[troubled soul]

It remained me that real world works with money and power. Big fish eat small fish. Human rights, equity ,honesty are just bookish things??

Why Facebook is talking sides here??
Facebook have to be neutral here. non democratic voice should not be allowed.
If it is war or not...

 

[joffreylol]

Luckily

Facebook's reputation is so bad, the company must pay even more now to hire and retain talent. Some are calling it a 'brand tax' as tech workers fear a 'black mark' on their careers.​

I've heard the same thing happening with Amazon but they are quoting labor shortage

Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k for corporate and tech workers, citing labor market​

 

[JamesDonkey]

Most normal Russians probably do not know what is happening because of Putin's news blackout.

And you're the one who certaintly do. How do you know that what you know is the truth?

 

[Martin Everson]

FB are blatantly permitting extremist views and hate speech to be shared as long as its against someone they hate in this case. Moral bankruptcy on full display by FB. Then they wonder why China banned it .

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Kremlin threatens to ban Facebook, Instagram amid calls for violence against Russia​

The Kremlin on Friday threatened to ban Facebook and Instagram after its posts called for violence against Russia.

The Kremlin said that it’s "necessary" to ban Facebook and Instagram if they allowed calls for violence against Russia, reported Sputnik.

Earlier in the day, Meta announced a concerning change in its company policy, giving a green light to calls for violence against Russian soldiers on its platforms in some countries amid Moscow’s military operation in Ukraine.

"As a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules like violent speech such as ‘death to the Russian invaders.’ We still won’t allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians," Meta spokesperson Andy Stone said in a statement.

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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/worl...-calls-for-violence-against-russia/ar-AAUVKsh

 

[John Spectre]

FB are blatantly permitting extremist views and hate speech to be shared as long as its against someone they hate in this case. Moral bankruptcy on full display by FB. Then they wonder why China banned it .

I don't believe that anywhere in the world exists some popular media/social network/etc which are neutral for all content.

FB follow west rules.
VK follow russia rules.
wechat/weibo follow china rules.
And FB still better that these few above.

In any way, china and russia definitelly not countries which are need to be followed for the implementation of the facebook's ban.

 

[JamesDonkey]

If USA suddenly found out that its army has been killing civilians in Lybia, Iran, Iran, Afganistan, Vietnam.... USA would have to attack, invade and kill itself. For the sake of peace in the world.

 

[KDX]

If USA suddenly found out that its army has been killing civilians in Lybia, Iran, Iran, Afganistan, Vietnam.... USA would have to attack, invade and kill itself.

And where's the part where that makes invading Ukraine okay?

 

[John Spectre]

And where's the part where that makes invading Ukraine okay?

That russian boy just don't yet received recent news from his curator to say something about war

But blaming USA in any case - works everytime in russia, so he don't care

 

[Martin Everson]

I don't believe that anywhere in the world exists some popular media/social network/etc which are neutral for all content.

Very true when money and state are involved sadly.

But issue it not about being neutral it is about wrongly allowing extremist content and being social responsible like I said.

 

[RealDude]

It looks like the Russian patriotic army is not exactly motivated to support a massacre in Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...lp-fight-against-ukrainian-forces-2022-03-11/

 

[Golden Fleece]

It looks like the Russian patriotic army is not exactly motivated to support a massacre in Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...lp-fight-against-ukrainian-forces-2022-03-11/

Even when the existence of the country was at stake, Russian soldiers were highly unmotivated. Communist party apparatchiks would follow Russian soldiers into battle and shoot those who would not fight.

At a minimum, according to Mark Edele, one of the leading historians of Soviet society during the war, 117,000 Soviet citizens voluntarily crossed the front line, risking life and limb to escape to the Germans.

In addition, up to 6% of soldiers taken prisoner by the Germans decided to join the German forces. No other allied army in the second world war had such a large share of defectors. Put together with civilians, some 1.6 million Soviet citizens became military collaborators with the fascists.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...from-ed-army-solders-to-hitlers-collaborators

 

[RealDude]

Even when the existence of the country was at stake, Russian soldiers were highly unmotivated. Communist party apparatchiks would follow Russian soldiers into battle and shoot those who would not fight.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...from-ed-army-solders-to-hitlers-collaborators

The use of chemical and biological weapons by Russia in Ukraine is also imminent.

 

[Golden Fleece]

The use of chemical and biological weapons by Russia in Ukraine is also imminent.

I am not so sure. While Russia is certainly unconstrained by any sense of morality, Russia has already been surprised by the severity of the West's outrage, condemnation, and sanctions.

People in the Russian government and military would be convicted of war crimes under international law. They would then be unable to leave Russia for the remainder of their lives. This might be a bridge too far, even for Russia.

I am not saying that it will definitely not happen, only that is is far less likely than people might otherwise think based on the Russian military's history of war crimes, including raping its way across Europe after WWII. It is far more difficult to hide war crimes today.

 

[JosephLL]

It remained me that real world works with money and power. Big fish eat small fish. Human rights, equity ,honesty are just bookish things??

Why Facebook is talking sides here??
Facebook have to be neutral here. non democratic voice should not be allowed.
If it is war or not...

Because all these web unicorns have nothing to do with free markets and capitalism. All of them are deep state projects. From A to Z.

 

[JamesDonkey]

The dogs keep barking but the caravan goes on.

 

[RealDude]

I am not so sure. While Russia is certainly unconstrained by any sense of morality, Russia has already been surprised by the severity of the West's outrage, condemnation, and sanctions.

People in the Russian government and military would be convicted of war crimes under international law. They would then be unable to leave Russia for the remainder of their lives. This might be a bridge too far, even for Russia.

I am not saying that it will definitely not happen, only that is is far less likely than people might otherwise think based on the Russian military's history of war crimes, including raping its way across Europe after WWII. It is far more difficult to hide war crimes today.

U.N. Security Council to convene today at Russia's request​

The United States on Wednesday denied renewed Russian accusations that Washington was operating biological warfare labs in Ukraine, calling the claims "laughable" and suggesting Moscow may be laying the groundwork to use a chemical or biological weapon.

"This is exactly the kind of false flag effort we have warned Russia might initiate to justify a biological or chemical weapons attack,"

"Russia has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons and has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law...We’re not going to let Russia get away with gaslighting,"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-friday-russias-request-diplomats-2022-03-11/

 

[Golden Fleece]

I am not so sure. While Russia is certainly unconstrained by any type of morality, Russia has already been surprised by the severity of the West's outrage, condemnation, and sanctions.

People in the Russian government and military would be convicted of war crimes. They would then be unable to leave Russia for the remainder of their lives. This might be a bridge too far, even for Russia.

U.N. Security Council to convene today at Russia's request​

The United States on Wednesday denied renewed Russian accusations that Washington was operating biological warfare labs in Ukraine, calling the claims "laughable" and suggesting Moscow may be laying the groundwork to use a chemical or biological weapon.

"This is exactly the kind of false flag effort we have warned Russia might initiate to justify a biological or chemical weapons attack,"

"Russia has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons and has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law...We’re not going to let Russia get away with gaslighting,"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-friday-russias-request-diplomats-2022-03-11/

That is the problem with all such biological labs, i.e., plausible deniability. Even if a biological lab is created purely for defensive reasons, a country can quickly convert such a lab to an offensive capability. Because this is true, even countries who would willingly give up such offensive biological and chemical programs are forced to create such labs to play defense. So, there is never a way to know for sure whether a lab is purely a defensive measure. It says much about the human condition.