Peru - 2 years citizenship

[Jerry1911]

What would be the worst thing one could do?

Marrying a British or an American girl

They won’t let you renew your residency if you don’t provide tax returns and you can’t renounce an Argentinian citizenship.

You don't need permanent residency to obtain the citizenship. Are you referring to temporary residency?

 

[Marshal]

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[Jerry1911]

you get Italian citizenship only if the girl is also an Italian citizen.

So pay for a lawyer to sort it out before you marry her. That should work, no?

 

[Marshal]

So pay for a lawyer to sort it out before you marry her. That should work, no?

As long as she has Italian ancestry shouldn't be a problem. Will take longer though and involve extra expenses.

 

[jafo]

I suppose that today the citizenship application file includes all electronic entry records. Can someone verify if this is the case?

I asked....
There seemed to have been a try-out phase in Argentina, but they shelved that...here it is.....

Source: Migraciones eliminará los sellos en los pasaportes en los trámites de ingreso y salida al país

What is NOT clear... Will the judge have access to this? I don't know and I doubt anyone else knows...except the judge. In theory, they are supposed to have access to this, but in practice?

If I were redoing this today, I would start by asking questions to (or at, depending on distance) the consulates (plural) of Argentina. I would focus on the response more favorable to my goals. Expect to be met with resistance though.

Wow!
Argentina has always been no stamps for me .... just like in Hong Kong, I've never had one of those stamps before. It wasn't like this in the past (80s, 90s, and early 2000s, and now they seem to have completely gone back to not stamping passports according to their own government's website...
Source: Migraciones eliminará los sellos en los pasaportes en los trámites de ingreso y salida al país

Note: We can all see here....What was TRUE yesteryear, is NOT true today, and today's truth is NO longer tomorrow's truth.... Damnnnnn

This doesn’t work in practice. Check with a lawyer

You may be right! In fact, if I had to bet, I would bet you are correct...in practice.
In practice, NOBODY follows or respects the law or the Constitution. It's always about self-interest I've never had to "test" reouncement, but I'll stick to the advice of the government of Argentina on this one:

PS. I keep a diary....and...
Every single time I, or people I know, have hired a lawyer, consultant, accountant, "expert", etc etc, the problem exacerbated into a full-blown drawn-out legal war with huge fees, expenses, and stress
Maybe it's just an isolated coincidence that happens to me and others....millions of times

Ironically this has also occurred to me.

We had a meeting with the Indonesian Government, and they were ready to sign a MoU.

But one of the parties (worked for Nokia Mesh Division) at the time, that did the introduction(s), said they wanted a salary of 10,000$ (equivalent) via a Dubai vehicle for themselves, and someone else.

Basically at that point we pulled out, due to the discussions being tainted, and under UK law (non UK company) but UK Citizen, that could have landed me in prison.

Similar in Kenya mentioned previously where the Presidential appointed department head first words on entering the room "whats my cut" - discussions ended -> flew out immediately.

They just can't help themselves, no one can be charged (yourside) if they do their dirty deeds on their side of the relationship and you are unaware.

their short sightedness leaves more money on the table for you, so why not to happily accept their offer, after some bargaining and an extra bonus at the end?

Here is where the Chinese have a HUGE advantage over the rest of us. Huge! China completely disregards the FCPA and as we saw with Meng Wanzhou of Huawei, China came to her rescue with guns blazing...

And I agree with @JohnnyDoe

In their house it’s their game and their rules. If you don’t like them, don’t even enter, it would be disrespectful.

100% this! China knows this and they take FULL advantage of the lack of Marshmallow Test of their business partners.

And when I mean guns blazing.... China held NOTHING back! China said: You grab one of mine, I grab 2 of yours.

....and this is why this comes back to the Peru or (inclusive or) Argentina passports! You don't want to travel to certain countries with certain passports....

 

[banafinfodafuggiano]

Marrying a British or an American girl


You don't need permanent residency to obtain the citizenship. Are you referring to temporary residency?

I did that and it's not working out as nicely, I got Canadian Citizenship through my girlfriend, I could also get UK visa and citizenship waiting time shortened to 3 years so there are some benefits to dating Western girls. I agree I wouldn't marry an Italian, too possessive/controlling/jealous and high drama, same applies for latinas, but a marriage that lasts just 6-12 months until your papers are ready? I'm all for it. . . .


If you are a single guy earning online income today you are in the top 0.000001% of people with the most individual freedom as of today 2024.

 

[OCT2023]

One of the perks of citizenship in a South American country is the Mercosur Visa, which allows you to live and work in the other Mercosur agreement countries ... similar to Schengen ... this pertains to all countries except for Venezuela and Guayana. I chose a South American country other than Peru or Argentina because of Territorial Tax. Also you cannot renounce Argentinian Citizenship.

 

[Dictator]

I chose a South American country other than Peru or Argentina because of Territorial Tax.

Which one will it be except Bolivia?

 

[OCT2023]

Which one will it be except Bolivia?

You forgot about Paraguay

 

[JackAlabama]

Which one will it be except Bolivia?

Uruguay can also be potentially interesting. Plus its right next to afuera Argentina over the plata river, which allows for extra leeway.

 

[fl8high]

Peruvian passport isn't that bad - as it works also for the Schengen area.
Surely 2 Years in Lima are probably not everyone's cup of tea, but there are fast track solutions existing.

 

[void]

there are fast track solutions existing

mind you share more?

 

[fl8high]

Each case is a bit individual and needs a prescreening but if the case is not too complicated (alterations / pep ect.), it can mostly be achieved in 2-3 months. Happy to share more specifics in private.

 

[JohnLocke]

Each case is a bit individual and needs a prescreening but if the case is not too complicated (alterations / pep ect.), it can mostly be achieved in 2-3 months. Happy to share more specifics in private.

Now you are a mentor group gold member, you could simply setup a signature with your services and contact details, in that case you would be able to make better and informative posts, since it does not help anyone that they all can contact you in privacy or turning a thread into people asking "contact me please" - just a friendly reminder of the forum rules and a help to get much more credit by the users around here.

 

[fl8high]

Thanks for the heads up John, get your point.
I'm just getting familiar with the forum. Also I'm not officially in the service business but due to the nature of my brick and mortar operations in different countries - some capabilities have been emerging. Came actually to the forum due to some unclear questions for myself and decided to sign up for membership, since I found very helpful answers quickly.
Have to think about the signature, will be done shortly.