Pavel Durov Arrested France

[12345]

telegram is deleting channels only in extreme cases like child porn, terrorism. Other than that they do not

 

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telegram is deleting channels only in extreme cases like child porn, terrorism. Other than that they do not

do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?
it's encrypted, or is it not?
they not only shouldn't care/do anything like this but first of all they should design their software the way it's technically impossible for them do so

 

[wellington]

, last decade's event's are leading to an extinction level economic events for majority of people.

At least some people get it, though if you analyse -> we are looking at top town communism (opposed to historically bottom up) - correct not an exact communism but basically aspects of it, its gonna be painful for those that haven't already left the West less so for those that have already done so, it will be increasingly difficult also in the future to extrapolate wealth outside of the system (outside of the Western System) as they not only debase (increasing optical valuations) and then increasingly tax.

You are already seeing this come in to full play in the UK.

Ref TG privacy, problem is MLAT(s) are slow, and activities occur in real time

Note the privacy was only to 'secret' chats, generic ones were not covered.

 

[mraleph]

At least some people get it, though if you analyse -> we are looking at top town communism (opposed to historically bottom up) - correct not an exact communism but basically aspects of it, its gonna be painful for those that haven't already left the West less so for those that have already done so, it will be increasingly difficult also in the future to extrapolate wealth outside of the system (outside of the Western System) as they not only debase (increasing optical valuations) and then increasingly tax.

You are already seeing this come in to full play in the UK.

Ref TG privacy, problem is MLAT(s) are slow, and activities occur in real time

Note the privacy was only to 'secret' chats, generic ones were not covered.

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There is an absolute difference between content moderation and lawful requests for communication content and metalayer. In the end, all governments are trying to impede private communication under ruse of serious crime.

I can't stop to think about this chick being a honey pot..

If so, I hope that Durov enjoyed that pussy long enough.

Mr @jafo had offered personal experience regarding pussycats before Mr Durov's case - if I recall correctly, it was a Colombian blonde sitting beside him in first class from NY to Tokyo. However stupid or naive that my sound or look to you, pussycats as intelligence agents do have prevalent success with their targets - once you're targeted, that means somebody profiled you and identified weakness. Only self control can save you after the script is put at play A painful one.

To complicate the pour ********'s fate more, Mr Yulia Vavilova is an Israeli citizen beside other perks

To comprehend any game, sets should be identified thru commonalities - hidden ones as well. Mr Durov probably was at intersection of quite wrong sets.

 

[12345]

do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?
it's encrypted, or is it not?
they not only shouldn't care/do anything like this but first of all they should design their software the way it's technically impossible for them do so

Yes true but they need to do at least something to avoid legal trouble from gov which it seems like they failed to avoid either way. At least its better than facebook or whatsapp, even ukraine and russia use it for military purpose. Sure you can use use something like jabber for more safety but its really pain in the a*s to use and difficult to convince somebody non familiar with it to use it. Well it comes down to personal preference and what business you are involved in.

 

[GPT]

Don't use it for illegal s**t like a drugs, weapon, child porn etc(I don't know else what you use which affect you with deleted channels) and it will be fine.
For my purpose I never had problem with deleting or other moderation from application side.

The things you mention I have no issues with.

Channels about Russian / Ukrainian / Israeli news or opposing opinions in first & second world countries however... Or controversial topics such as 911 or covid etc. Do you consider that also problematic?

Even Zuck admitted earlier that fb's censorship was too much. And that same censorship is happening a lot on tg.

When reading the forums, I perceive that a lot of people react improperly - focusing on a segment, an isolated detail and trying to revert or change the tides of tax policies etc. - where that's not adaptive behavior - they don't anticipate nor comprehend the meaning of the processes and phenomena. On a societal scale, last decade's event's are leading to an extinction level economic events for majority of people.

"leading to an extinction level event for majority of people". I've rephrased the last part of the above for you. It's a lot worse than -just- the economy.

telegram is deleting channels only in extreme cases like child porn, terrorism. Other than that they do not

Unfortunately they do. Every month channels & groups magically disappear.

To complicate the pour ********'s fate more, Mr Yulia Vavilova is an Israeli citizen beside other perks

And according to some news she hasnt been spotted anywhere since the arrest. Is she arrested herself or did she magically disappear because of mission accomplished?

If the ladder is the case.. unless she gets surgery she can't do public profile cases anymore.

 

[Jade33]

Come on my friend it is very innocent question they both are competitors who run messaging app
Hehehe..

Because Zucky is on a leash....

 

[jafo]

This has MAJORLY backfired on FRANCE:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828525780780851466

PS. I thought it would have been Putin...but I see the UAE still has some balls left!

 

[mraleph]

And according to some news she hasnt been spotted anywhere since the arrest. Is she arrested herself or did she magically disappear because of mission accomplished?

If the ladder is the case.. unless she gets surgery she can't do public profile cases anymore.

Mr Durov has chartered and boarded on August the 24th the Embraer Legacy 600/ER135 from Austrian MJet fleet from Baku to Paris. That particular plane with number MJF3B has more then 6000km of range. The flown distance is cca 4000km. It terminal phase, that plane changed course before landing in Paris - LBG. That implies two probabilities - that Mr Durov has been informed post festum about the impeding event and instructed the pilots to change course and that French authorities forced the pilots to land on LBG.

Mr Putin was in Baku on a two day state visit from August 18th to 19th. Mr Durov came to Baku on August the 17th. Officialy, they did not met and unofficialy Mr Putin declined a proposal for a meeting. Again unofficialy, they met.

As Mr Durov is French, UAE and Russian citizen with a taste for beautiful Russo-Jewish women, his arrest appears as a result of a momentous and possibly provoked decision with unforeseen consequences. Considering how many different states are already implied, Mr Durov's arrest may in the end prove to be beneficial to several parties but also detrimental to them at the same time.

UAE and France already signed an arms deal for procurement of 80 Rafale fighter jets and in early July, they expanded it with another 12. I can't verify this as of now

This has MAJORLY backfired on FRANCE:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828525780780851466

PS. I thought it would have been Putin...but I see the UAE still has some balls left!

But, it may have happened - again - as they already had severed previous Rafale figher jet negotiations in 2010s

Dispute over article freezes France-UAE arms talks: source - https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...s-france-uae-arms-talks-source-idUSTRE6904SF/

The current contract has been signed due to pressure from US in order to stop UAE - Russian military program Checkmate.

My educated guess is that Mr Durov is truly a useful idiot for all the countries whose citizenship he holds

 

[jafo]

Mr Durov is truly a useful idiot for all the countries whose citizenship he holds

100% this!
A LOT of people OVERESTIMATE their importance! A LOT!
A LOT of people ALSO overestimate the "love" their family/relatives, friends, and employees have for them.

Sadly, Durov was seeking validation, which is why he granted so many interviews.

I'm NOT even convinced that if he had the ability to turn back time, he would do it. He may see being a martyr as a badge of honor.

If he thinks the French government is bad, wait until he is released (one day) and realizes what his "inner trusted circle" has done behind his back!

 

[Simon4466]

do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?
it's encrypted, or is it not?
they not only shouldn't care/do anything like this but first of all they should design their software the way it's technically impossible for them do so

It is NOT encrypted that was the problem, he thought he could just not give a f.... about these takedown requests even though his app was not E2EE, this was pretty much the only reason he was arrested and not say a Zuckerberg who owns whatsapp (fully E2EE)

 

[JackAlabama]

further, telegram on ios has been heavily censored since quite a while. Apple already conviced paul du rove sufficiently before it seems.

 

[John Spectre]

The things you mention I have no issues with.

Channels about Russian / Ukrainian / Israeli news or opposing opinions in first & second world countries however... Or controversial topics such as 911 or covid etc. Do you consider that also problematic?

Never seen this banned in tg.
Being Ukrainian, I have list of number of russian/Ukrainian public channels about war with quite sensitive information: real time war videos with uncensored body parts, mass kiling, cutting off heads and other body parts of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian soldiers and other materials of a cruel nature.
Not a single channel of such was banned/deleted/moderated. NOT A SINGLE ONE. They have millions of subscribers and fully public and operate for a years. For Israeli of my area interest the same.

conspiracy theories about covid, 911, flat earth and other crap that wank about are not very interesting to me, so I don’t know what’s going on there

 

[marioIT]

" Pavel Durov said that he was lured to France by President Macron.
It turns out that the French president invited Durov to dine together. Pavel told about this during interrogation by the police, the French newspaper Le Canard Chainé claims.
But instead of lunch, Durov was met in France by local police. Macron did not officially confirm this. But local politician Florian Philippot said that this was quite in the spirit of the French president."


Macron is a joker and everyone knows that.

I'm sorry for Pavel, but how tf are you so gullible to believe that guy is a good one?
oh wait let's see...
"Durov is a libertarian. He is a vegetarian and abstains from alcohol, recreational drugs, caffeine, and fast food."
ok, noting wrong but meat... you should eat meat dude.

"On his Vkontakte profile, he calls himself single, libertarian, pastafarian, and inspired by Steve Jobs and Che Guevara"
there we go, now i get it, the guy was already confused from the start... add that some fine pussy and he's easily controlled

 

[12345]

There are many channels on telegram on "controversial topics" and they are running since many years, I haven't seen any channel get taken down. Telegram is not perfect but way better than whatsapp, facebook with unreal cenzorship. Well they would not arrest the guy if telegram was 100% controlled by the globalists

 

[JohnnyDoe]

 

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I have never seen such a message but so much for telegram

designing a system that technically allows moderation is fault, putting his face and name publicly behind it is double fault

bitcoin core developers and many others in crypto already know

 

[GPT]

It is NOT encrypted that was the problem, he thought he could just not give a f.... about these takedown requests even though his app was not E2EE, this was pretty much the only reason he was arrested and not say a Zuckerberg who owns whatsapp (fully E2EE)

Again; TG did comply with EOD take down notices on many occasions. Specifically take down, not just censorship what they did re apple users.

Never seen this banned in tg.
Being Ukrainian, I have list of number of russian/Ukrainian public channels about war with quite sensitive information: real time war videos with uncensored body parts, mass kiling, cutting off heads and other body parts of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian soldiers and other materials of a cruel nature.
Not a single channel of such was banned/deleted/moderated. NOT A SINGLE ONE. They have millions of subscribers and fully public and operate for a years. For Israeli of my area interest the same.

conspiracy theories about covid, 911, flat earth and other crap that wank about are not very interesting to me, so I don’t know what’s going on there

I have seen several news channels banned. And now? Yes/ no game?

Re conspiracy theories etc, I specifically avoided the use of that name. Its news to people. Whether you and I like it or not. In that sense you can compare it with sports. Me being into field hockey and you being into tennis. And all of a sudden one of the two is gone because it doesnt suit narratives of the powers that be.

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Thank you. Dozens of this. It comes and goes in waves.

 

[diatessaron]

Don't fall for that, just because he was arrested it doesn't mean the globalists aren't playing a game like they always do. The satanic cult never gives up and relies on trickery to carry out their otherwordly influenced plans.

Telegram has been accussed of having a backdoor for the Russian government in the past.

There are many channels on telegram on "controversial topics" and they are running since many years, I haven't seen any channel get taken down. Telegram is not perfect but way better than whatsapp, facebook with unreal cenzorship. Well they would not arrest the guy if telegram was 100% controlled by the globalists

 

[John Spectre]

I have seen several news channels banned. And now? Yes/ no game?

Could you name few? If it related to the ru-ua war and if they popular I'm pretty sure I might know them.

Also you should don't mix up banning by TG team during moderation, and for example deleting one when police arrested owner of the channel, got access to it and delete it/restrict or channel removes automatically due to inactivity.