It's so funny to see how people react just because you say something that doesn't fit their narrative, or when you happen to criticize their country or religion in a different context.It don't change anything.
Russia != USSR. It's a just one of countries from former union, even it largest one.
What you called earlier - is total bulls**t.
It's a same as to call BMW a French car or VW Greek one, just because they are in same EU with Germany.
You certainly shouldn't care what I should or shouldn't do.
But you can definitely go f**k yourself, as you continue to attack me based my on nationality.
You whined loudly earlier that you put me on ignore, so act like a man, make your words and actions match. I have no desire to have a dialogue with you.
#BingoooooooooooooooooNo need to do business inside Russia when you can do business with Russians that own 49% of a company and a native of the country owns 51% thus is a majority shareholder so no business with a Russian owned company which then does business with another native company which does business with a HK company which does business with a Chinese company which does business with a Russian company…
Sure costs rise but your % take doesn’t because the 51% owner signed a bit of paper saying they don’t actually own the company and receive a salary
No violations occur because it’s all paper based hidden ownership off the books and no sanctions violations occur because of the intermediaries and the companies are in countries that don’t sanction Russia.
= this is basically what’s going on, see it first hand when friends sold their businesses to Russians when the war broke out
* they had the relevant licenses and infrastructure to be attractive buy outs
Russia is considered the legal successor to the Soviet Union by almost every country and organisation.
My friend who sold his business was the son of a former ambassador - that was the kicker.#Bingooooooooooooooooo
PS. How is this LOST on so many forum members here on OCT? Do they NOT read the past threads?
It’s so simple, thanks to the EU and its “Western values”:
EU says Russia is bad.
EU forbids doing business with Russia.
EU forbids going to Russia.
EU forbids talking good about Russia.
Therefore:
Russia is good.
Doing business with Russia is lucrative.
I go to Russia.
I like Russia.
This is f*cking brilliant reasoning following a form of deductive reasoning. Still, more specifically, it's an example of a hypothetical syllogism or if-then reasoning that relies on contrastive thinking (e.g., a comparison between the EU and Russia).It’s so simple, thanks to the EU and its “Western values”:
EU says Russia is bad.
EU forbids doing business with Russia.
EU forbids going to Russia.
EU forbids talking good about Russia.
Therefore:
Russia is good.
Doing business with Russia is lucrative.
I go to Russia.
I like Russia.
I think anyone that wasn't a resident in the UK, EU or did business in some form with Russia on the fall out of the invasion realised the UK, EU isn't in the good, specifically when you can trace the Ukraine war to specific events, 1) agreements violated stating that Nato wouldn't move Eastwards which would provide a ability to invade Russia directly, that was and has always been Russia's firm line, it wanted a buffer, at one point it even discussed joining Nato.This is f*cking brilliant reasoning following a form of deductive reasoning. Still, more specifically, it's an example of a hypothetical syllogism or if-then reasoning that relies on contrastive thinking (e.g., a comparison between the EU and Russia).
This reasoning can be classified as contrastive (reasoning) or disjunctive (reasoning) because you’re contrasting two options and ruling out one. It also involves some sharp deductive reasoning. It highlights a situation where the EU is actively harmful while Russia provides safeguards against that harm.
For the detractors of this logic, I will address (and disarm them) why it is NOT a false dichotomy. In this case, the reasoning doesn’t fall into the false dichotomy trap because the distinction between the EU and Russia is not just a matter of two different "evils"—Russia (currently) is objectively better in certain vital aspects being eroded by the EU.
In this analogy, choosing Russia is a reasonable decision because Russia actually provides protection and benefits, unlike the EU, which is eroding them. The reasoning follows pragmatic logic—choices are made based on tangible safety, financial, and security outcomes.
In fact, the EU’s mandate to prohibit us from choosing Russia could even be seen as projection or misdirection: The EU might be trying to distract us from its own flaws by pointing the finger at Russia.
In short, it makes sense to choose Russia because Russia isn't engaging in the harmful behaviors that the EU does.
I love this logic!
I agree with you 100%! The commenter's logic has been sabotaged since we sabotaged the USSR.Russia is considered the legal successor to the Soviet Union by almost every country and organisation.
Ursula is my most beloved mentor, and the EU is the best business advisor ever. You just need to do the opposite of what they say. Since when I started doing that my businesses have boomed. Never ever the EU clowns ruled or opined on something that was good for me, my associates or my clients. Come on, they’re even unable to decide on the daylight saving timeThis is f*cking brilliant reasoning following a form of deductive reasoning. Still, more specifically, it's an example of a hypothetical syllogism or if-then reasoning that relies on contrastive thinking (e.g., a comparison between the EU and Russia).
This reasoning can be classified as contrastive (reasoning) or disjunctive (reasoning) because you’re contrasting two options and ruling out one. It also involves some sharp deductive reasoning. It highlights a situation where the EU is actively harmful while Russia provides safeguards against that harm.
For the detractors of this logic, I will address (and disarm them) why it is NOT a false dichotomy. In this case, the reasoning doesn’t fall into the false dichotomy trap because the distinction between the EU and Russia is not just a matter of two different "evils"—Russia (currently) is objectively better in certain vital aspects being eroded by the EU.
In this analogy, choosing Russia is a reasonable decision because Russia actually provides protection and benefits, unlike the EU, which is eroding them. The reasoning follows pragmatic logic—choices are made based on tangible safety, financial, and security outcomes.
In fact, the EU’s mandate to prohibit us from choosing Russia could even be seen as projection or misdirection: The EU might be trying to distract us from its own flaws by pointing the finger at Russia.
In short, it makes sense to choose Russia because Russia isn't engaging in the harmful behaviors that the EU does.
I love this logic!
I usually wonder how you could bring absolute off topic bulls**t with adding s**t to the fan and continue to state somehow you are clue person.I agree with you 100%! The commenter's logic has been sabotaged since we sabotaged the USSR.
@John Spectre 's logic is like a unicorn—beautiful in theory but tragically nonexistent in reality.
It must be exhausting for him to wander so far from reason only to end up in the middle of nowhere with a map drawn by delusions.
It's impressive, really—somehow he's managed to construct an entire argument out of the flimsiest materials, like building a house out of fog.
@John Spectre probably uses this same logic when he sees the difference in life expectancy between women and men in Ukraine and wonders if he'll be able to extend his life an extra +10 years if he transitions
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His grand plan for immortality would be switching teams on the gender scoreboard. That’s like swapping lanes in traffic, thinking it’ll get him to his destination faster while completely ignoring the cliff he's speeding towards!By all means, he can let us know if that logic adds extra years to his life—or just to our collective headache.
100%! Exactly this!I think anyone that wasn't a resident in the UK, EU or did business in some form with Russia on the fall out of the invasion realised the UK, EU isn't in the good, specifically when you can trace the Ukraine war to specific events, 1) agreements violated stating that Nato wouldn't move Eastwards which would provide a ability to invade Russia directly, that was and has always been Russia's firm line, it wanted a buffer, at one point it even discussed joining Nato.
2) the coup in Ukraine in 2014.
Russia was never going to allow itself to be encircled across the whole of its eastern border length, whilst also then being restricted in its access to the Med.
Then couple the fact that in the UK (and to a lesser degree) banks were arbitrarily freezing accounts of non residents in-case they did business with Russia under the guise of 'KYC renewing', followed by mass similar runs in the UK/EU for residents that had irregular incomes (gambling, cash etc), coupled with the fact of asset freezes which violated international law of people who were Russian and had relations with people in the Kremlin or past relations, or built wealth in the 90's free-for-all in Russia.
Then coupled with people that did do work (current or past) in/with Russia likewise having difficulties banking or anything else (Nigel Farage etc).
Then all the lies/miss-information from the state on the war itself, and the sunken settlement in the earlier days, then nordstream, then blaming Russia for inflation which was driven by Gov reckless spending... etc (where do you start) it was obvious (at least to me at that time) was two wrongs don't make a right, i don't agree with Russia, but i did see the need for Russia to survive for the balance of the ying and the yang, he's bad look -> our gov can't copy (though they increasingly do -> china mass surveillance estate is comparable to the UK now).
So lesser of two evils... rules based order only applying to the actions of the other party not ourselves.
Supporting of Genocide or slavery for mineral resources and financial out put across the world from West Papua through to Western Africa... etc...
Nah for me it came down to the following... stay the f**k out of it, watch and just bounce around as they are both as "EVIL" as each other in their own ways.
Ursula is my most beloved mentor, and the EU is the best business advisor ever. You just need to do the opposite of what they say. Since when I started doing that my businesses have boomed. Never ever the EU clowns ruled or opined on something that was good for me, my associates or my clients. Come on, they’re even unable to decide on the daylight saving time
The EU is only good for parasites and thugs, as I am neither I simply made the only sensible choice.
Don’t forget that these two trolls are EU MPs, represent European citizens and values and decide for Europeans:
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It’s the best image of the EU, babyHairy legs?
Sorry for the comparison, but what international companies are doing, not only in the USA, somewhat resembles what all the German companies did during World War II! They raked in (adjusted to today's money) millions that they received from the Nazis. When it was all over, it was swept under the rug, and they waited 50 years before telling about it.They were BOTH Soviet! Started by the Soviet Union!
Get back on your meds and vaccine, and then go BACK to sleep!
Just because you FAILED miserably in Russia because you couldn't compete among REAL men with NO gender issues doesn't mean the rest of us aren't winning BIG time!
BTW, aren't you supposed to support the West and go back to Ukraine and fight until the last Ukrainian?
I've written on this forum PLENTY of times that I have been doing business in Russia for +4 decades! Have you NOT read that?
I also mentioned that due to Western sanctions, we are "obediently" staying away from Russia, while the ones who sanctioned Russia keep doing business with Russia, earning even MORE money than before!
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How do you like Western hypocrisy?
One of my clients in Russia does this on a bad week! An awful week!
I should know... An AFF buys from him!
He's NEVER had an issue in Russia. Not even one!
BTW, did you compete?
If affirmative, did you compete locally or also internationally?
Did you win anything?
What was the name of the coach?
What weight class did you compete in?
How is your Par Terre game?
I lived there for many years
2008-2021From when to when? I would wager that living in Russia in 2024 is nothing like living there in the 1990s was, just as living in the West in 2024 is nothing like living here was in the 1990s. Places change, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. However, politics is always downstream of culture. If you want to know what your future looks like in any place, simply take the temperature of the culture. The future of the United States is determined by what comes out of Hollywood and feral shoppers fighting over discounted flat screens at a Walmart Black Friday sale as much as any election.
NGL, In the 1980s, '90s, and early 2000s, right before the EU started its BS and Obama started later with his BS FATCA, the West was a dream world! I truly enjoyed those days! I easily flew with $200K—$300K in cash, and nobody cared. What a time to be alive. The kids today have no clue how great life used to be.living here was in the 1990s
Why be so mean to him? Some dream of bank accounts while others lose control managing them:how boring life must be if it's called a "dream" when you're allowed to carry 200k in cash, and "hell" when cash is under control.
I just feel sorry for people whose division between dream and hell is so stupid.
... and a lot of headaches to admin it.It gives you flexibility if you have 50 bank accounts across 5 continents.
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