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But HSBC is just as pointless as Santander, because no SEPA is available! They rip you off with currency exchange.
Really it depends what you need to use the account for. If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that. I use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.
 
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Really it depends what you need to use the account for. If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that. I use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.
Then Switzerland (Swissquote, YUH) would be easier including EUR and SEPA and not as complicated as in Jersey.
 
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Then Switzerland (Swissquote, YUH) would be easier including EUR and SEPA and not as complicated as in Jersey.
Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur. So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial. That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?
 
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Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur. So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial. That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?
Swissquote is secure. You can park 100 million there without fear. Swissquote Luxembourg is also available. You can buy a money market ETF that brings you about 3.5% per year without risk. With 100K that's 300€ a month. Better than no interest in Jersey.
 
Really it depends what you need to use the account for.
Definitely. This is the core question.
If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that.
Aehm. If Wise is going to close accounts and is not the best, how diversify the money?
use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.
Fully understandable and wise reasoning, IMO.
Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur.
Yes, with 500k you can manage it in this way. With 5M – you cannot, I am afraid.
So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial.
It is beneficial in any case, IMO. Don't put all your eggs into the one basket. :)
That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?
Yes, it is; and mainly it is used in this way. But as it has a regular banking licence, some people are using it just for parking their assets and SQ is usually fine with this. They do not like to see to be used for the transactional banking, though.
You can't compare HSBC bank to Yuh.
Of course. Different subjects for different purposes.
Can you imagine HSBC to fail
Yes, perfectly :)
and who would really care about some swiss app when/if it's gone?
Well. Yuh is a joint venture of PostFinance and Swissquote, two Swiss banks; the sw application provides the services of Swissquote, IIRC. Putting aside the insurance, I still can hardly imagine any Swiss bank to fail with clients' assets lost. Yes, the Credit Suisse case (I mean the cancellation of certain bonds) represents a big warning. But still I'd feel more safe with SQ than with HSBC. Just my personal feeling ;)
Obviously SEPA is not what you care about when you make 1 or 2 transactions per year.
Sure.
Swissquote is secure. You can park 100 million there without fear.
Well, I think that there are different places suitable for 100M. But this is just a side-note.
Swissquote Luxembourg is also available.
Yes but beware: it is under the EU jurisdiction. SQ Switzerland is not.

I'll check out swissquote, that might be the answer to my needs.
If you need just safely park 500k, then probably yes. Just with respect to this What countries still have relatively good banking privacy? – note that CH is a signatory of the Lugano convention ;)
 
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You can invest in stocks/ETFs... aswell with HSBC expat like with Swissquote.ch, no? If yes, you can have an ETF €STR for instance (3.6% currently).
The fees would be extreme with traditional banks, at least 1% plus custody fees. At SQ Lux you only pay 0.10% order fee and no custody fee.
 
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For what it's worth, HSBC Expat in Jersey opened account for me in around a week, everything online. After the account was setup one of their guys called me for an intro call. Virtual card was available immediately, normal card took a while to arrive - like 2 months.
They did the same with me. Only asked for passport and proof of address. The money was stolen few months later and the account is frozen. They never provided any reason. They are criminals. This is not a banking group this is mafia. I'm going to start litigation soon. Take your money out as soon as you can.

I've managed to open accounts also with Barclays, Lloyds, and Santander. you know what's the difference? when you call them you'll get a local british person. But when you'll call HSBC Expat you would get some female Philippine call agent that would make you wonder why this financial institution even exist. you know why? because 90% of their workforce has been outsourced to philipines. makes you wonder if your account is really in Jersey or actually in Manila.
 
The fees would be extreme with traditional banks, at least 1% plus custody fees. At SQ Lux you only pay 0.10% order fee and no custody fee.
It seems that with an HSBC expat account, you have access to HSBC InvestDirect, which do not have any custody fees :
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/investments/shares/Euro-denominated shares: €21.95 flat fee
But Stamp duty on Uk and Irish equities... and I don't know if it's applied to Irish ETFs...

For others private banks such as Nedbank, yes, fees are higher: 0.25% of custody fees. If you have 500k€ = 0.2% (1k€ of custody fees/year).
Standard Bank 0.25% till 750k.

They did the same with me. Only asked for passport and proof of address. The money was stolen few months later and the account is frozen. They never provided any reason. They are criminals. This is not a banking group this is mafia. I'm going to start litigation soon. Take your money out as soon as you can.
Do you have provided your source of funds before depositing into this account?
 
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Do you have provided your source of funds before depositing into this account?
There's always two sides to every story. It's highly unlikely HSBC would just freeze his account without any explanation. As with every big bank there will be some unhappy customers.

P.S. Never dealt with HSBC Jersey, but HSBC UK works well.
 
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Unfortunately there are only a few countries accepted to open an account with Barclays International.

I randomly selected lots of countries through their online application form and the answer you get:

"Unfortunately, we can’t help you today
Based on the country that you live in or are moving to we are unable to provide you with our International Banking services. If your situation changes, we would be delighted to help you in the future.
Thank you for considering us."

Basically, any EU country you select you get the same answer. I even tried Bahamas, Dominican Republic, all Latin America with the same outcome.

Switzerland was accepted, LUX and LIE was not, very strange.

So for those who already have an account with Barclays International how did you proceed with opening it ? Where do you reside ?

I would like to open an account with them but it seems impossible, I have EU citizenship and I live here.

Yes I did so online with Barclays in Jersey for personal account years ago. I have opened trust accounts and related business account with RBS there but never a straight operational business account.

Lots of banks to choose from there but doubt in 2020 you get anywhere with a business account if you don't have operation on the island. However others may have had success im sure.

Where did you reside when you opened the account with them ? (if you can tell)

Maybe their policy has changed and they don't accept certain countries anymore.
 
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Unfortunately there are only a few countries accepted to open an account with Barclays International.

I randomly selected lots of countries through their online application form and the answer you get:

"Unfortunately, we can’t help you today
Based on the country that you live in or are moving to we are unable to provide you with our International Banking services. If your situation changes, we would be delighted to help you in the future.
Thank you for considering us."

Basically, any EU country you select you get the same answer. I even tried Bahamas, Dominican Republic, all Latin America with the same outcome.

Switzerland was accepted, LUX and LIE was not, very strange.

So for those who already have an account with Barclays International how did you proceed with opening it ? Where do you reside ?

I would like to open an account with them but it seems impossible, I have EU citizenship and I live here.



Where did you reside when you opened the account with them ? (if you can tell)

Maybe their policy has changed and they don't accept certain countries anymore.
HSBC Expat will open for you if in EU. I couldn't get any Barclays etc. You can also do HSBC UK and HSBC Singapore for most EU countries it seems. I have Singapore in progress right now.
 
@cionide do they accept crypto SOF for personal accounts ? Also incoming and outgoing transfers from/to regulated crytop exchanges ? If you have any experience regarding this...

Thanks!
I couldn't tell you if they like crypto, but they had no problem taking transfers from my own accounts on EMIs and never asked for any source of funds albiet I only dropped around 100k euro in there thus far. You could always use some EMI that likes crypto as an intermediary when doing transfers in and out while having the benefit of safely storing your money in a highstreet bank.
 
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