Really it depends what you need to use the account for. If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that. I use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.But HSBC is just as pointless as Santander, because no SEPA is available! They rip you off with currency exchange.
Then Switzerland (Swissquote, YUH) would be easier including EUR and SEPA and not as complicated as in Jersey.Really it depends what you need to use the account for. If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that. I use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.
Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur. So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial. That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?Then Switzerland (Swissquote, YUH) would be easier including EUR and SEPA and not as complicated as in Jersey.
You can't compare HSBC bank to Yuh. Can you imagine HSBC to fail and who would really care about some swiss app when/if it's gone? Obviously SEPA is not what you care about when you make 1 or 2 transactions per year.Then Switzerland (Swissquote, YUH) would be easier including EUR and SEPA and not as complicated as in Jersey.
Swissquote is secure. You can park 100 million there without fear. Swissquote Luxembourg is also available. You can buy a money market ETF that brings you about 3.5% per year without risk. With 100K that's 300€ a month. Better than no interest in Jersey.Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur. So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial. That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?
I'll check out swissquote, that might be the answer to my needs. HSBC gives you like 1% in EUR.Swissquote is secure. You can park 100 million there without fear. Swissquote Luxembourg is also available. You can buy a money market ETF that brings you about 3.5% per year without risk. With 100K that's 300€ a month. Better than no interest in Jersey.
Definitely. This is the core question.Really it depends what you need to use the account for.
Aehm. If Wise is going to close accounts and is not the best, how diversify the money?If you want a current account then really wise or revolut works great for that.
Fully understandable and wise reasoning, IMO.use HSBC for just "parking" money outside of my country. If i'm gonna move money in or out of it it's gonna be alot at once - i'm not using it to buy groceries or pay an electric bill (although the "global money" account with the card that they have would work fine for that). I'm next door to a war, if it spills over to PL the first thing that will happen is capital controls just like in UA.
Yes, with 500k you can manage it in this way. With 5M – you cannot, I am afraid.Yes, but another thing to consider is insurance on the bank account. If you have 500k euro, it's better to have it in 5 banks then 1 because each will be insured up to 100k eur.
It is beneficial in any case, IMO. Don't put all your eggs into the one basket.So even if I pay into swissquote or yuh, multiple accounts is beneficial.
Yes, it is; and mainly it is used in this way. But as it has a regular banking licence, some people are using it just for parking their assets and SQ is usually fine with this. They do not like to see to be used for the transactional banking, though.That said, isn't swissquote a trading platform?
Of course. Different subjects for different purposes.You can't compare HSBC bank to Yuh.
Yes, perfectlyCan you imagine HSBC to fail
Well. Yuh is a joint venture of PostFinance and Swissquote, two Swiss banks; the sw application provides the services of Swissquote, IIRC. Putting aside the insurance, I still can hardly imagine any Swiss bank to fail with clients' assets lost. Yes, the Credit Suisse case (I mean the cancellation of certain bonds) represents a big warning. But still I'd feel more safe with SQ than with HSBC. Just my personal feelingand who would really care about some swiss app when/if it's gone?
Sure.Obviously SEPA is not what you care about when you make 1 or 2 transactions per year.
Well, I think that there are different places suitable for 100M. But this is just a side-note.Swissquote is secure. You can park 100 million there without fear.
Yes but beware: it is under the EU jurisdiction. SQ Switzerland is not.Swissquote Luxembourg is also available.
If you need just safely park 500k, then probably yes. Just with respect to this What countries still have relatively good banking privacy? – note that CH is a signatory of the Lugano conventionI'll check out swissquote, that might be the answer to my needs.
The fees would be extreme with traditional banks, at least 1% plus custody fees. At SQ Lux you only pay 0.10% order fee and no custody fee.You can invest in stocks/ETFs... aswell with HSBC expat like with Swissquote.ch, no? If yes, you can have an ETF €STR for instance (3.6% currently).
They did the same with me. Only asked for passport and proof of address. The money was stolen few months later and the account is frozen. They never provided any reason. They are criminals. This is not a banking group this is mafia. I'm going to start litigation soon. Take your money out as soon as you can.For what it's worth, HSBC Expat in Jersey opened account for me in around a week, everything online. After the account was setup one of their guys called me for an intro call. Virtual card was available immediately, normal card took a while to arrive - like 2 months.
It seems that with an HSBC expat account, you have access to HSBC InvestDirect, which do not have any custody fees :The fees would be extreme with traditional banks, at least 1% plus custody fees. At SQ Lux you only pay 0.10% order fee and no custody fee.
Do you have provided your source of funds before depositing into this account?They did the same with me. Only asked for passport and proof of address. The money was stolen few months later and the account is frozen. They never provided any reason. They are criminals. This is not a banking group this is mafia. I'm going to start litigation soon. Take your money out as soon as you can.
There's always two sides to every story. It's highly unlikely HSBC would just freeze his account without any explanation. As with every big bank there will be some unhappy customers.Do you have provided your source of funds before depositing into this account?
But Jersey still levies a withholding tax on interest and dividends for Individuals, doesn't it?Jersey has no inheritance tax and if you are opening a joint account this maybe important.
Yes I did so online with Barclays in Jersey for personal account years ago. I have opened trust accounts and related business account with RBS there but never a straight operational business account.
Lots of banks to choose from there but doubt in 2020 you get anywhere with a business account if you don't have operation on the island. However others may have had success im sure.
HSBC Expat will open for you if in EU. I couldn't get any Barclays etc. You can also do HSBC UK and HSBC Singapore for most EU countries it seems. I have Singapore in progress right now.Unfortunately there are only a few countries accepted to open an account with Barclays International.
I randomly selected lots of countries through their online application form and the answer you get:
"Unfortunately, we can’t help you today
Based on the country that you live in or are moving to we are unable to provide you with our International Banking services. If your situation changes, we would be delighted to help you in the future.
Thank you for considering us."
Basically, any EU country you select you get the same answer. I even tried Bahamas, Dominican Republic, all Latin America with the same outcome.
Switzerland was accepted, LUX and LIE was not, very strange.
So for those who already have an account with Barclays International how did you proceed with opening it ? Where do you reside ?
I would like to open an account with them but it seems impossible, I have EU citizenship and I live here.
Where did you reside when you opened the account with them ? (if you can tell)
Maybe their policy has changed and they don't accept certain countries anymore.
I couldn't tell you if they like crypto, but they had no problem taking transfers from my own accounts on EMIs and never asked for any source of funds albiet I only dropped around 100k euro in there thus far. You could always use some EMI that likes crypto as an intermediary when doing transfers in and out while having the benefit of safely storing your money in a highstreet bank.