why is european citizenship bad?

[friedrich5000]

EU is nice for some people like regufees or employees in some sectors but definately not good for entrepreneurs. Taxed as hell not to mention new "save the planet" taxes added on top of that.
Although I think global eu tax is unlikely and EU passport is valuable for travel. EU residency definately not, leave EUSSR while you still can

 

[aage]

same, same, repeat! I don't see how you can come closer to any answer than what already is posted here in this thread. For some EU is cool, if you have a 8 - 16 job and for others it sucks if you are an entrepreneur.

 

[John Spectre]

EU is nice for some people like regufees or employees in some sectors but definately not good for entrepreneurs. Taxed as hell not to mention new "save the planet" taxes added on top of that.
Although I think global eu tax is unlikely and EU passport is valuable for travel. EU residency definately not, leave EUSSR while you still can

Have you ever heard about countries like a Cyprus, Malta, Romania, Bulgaria?
They are all in EU and their standard tax rates are quite competitive, absolute not tax hells.
I even don't mention special tax regimes that available in big number of EU countries for entrepreneurs i.e. small/new business in different areas.

Specific Germany or Italy is far not whole EU to make generalizarions about 'whole EU is a tax hell'.
Lol.

 

[friedrich5000]

Have you ever heard about countries like a Cyprus, Malta, Romania, Bulgaria?
They are all in EU and their standard tax rates are quite competitive, absolute not tax hells.
I even don't mention special tax regimes that available in big number of EU countries for entrepreneurs i.e. small/new business in different areas.

Specific Germany or Italy is far not whole EU to make generalizarions about 'whole EU is a tax hell'.
Lol.

Core countries of European Union which are: Italy, France, Germany, Spain are tax hells, one of the worst in the entire world. I agree Cyprus and Malta can be attractive but these are peripheral states of EU. Core of EU is tax hell.
Also, I am afraid Ursula might pressure Malta/Cyprus to change their tax regime, long term it might not be the best solution to move there.

 

[John Spectre]

Core of EU is tax hell

it doesn't mean anything as long as you have the freedom to do business where you want. no one forces you to do business in Germany and other difficult countries.

and again, if you have claims specifically against Germany, Italy, France, Spain - then you need to specify them accordingly and not generalize to the entire EU. because with such an approach, any user of this forum can be called a scammer and a criminal, just because there were (and are) some guys here who are engaged in illegal things

 

[John Spectre]

Also, I am afraid Ursula might pressure Malta/Cyprus to change their tax regime, long term it might not be the best solution to move there.

I heard this maybe for a decade already.
scary stories for the night to make some banana republics like Bahamas or uae more attractive

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Please continue to love the EU and stay there so it can survive and I can keep coming on vacation.
Don’t worry about your citizenship, you don’t need a passport to travel within the EU.

 

[John Spectre]

Why anyone in their mind need this shitty EU for vacations?
There is great places in russia for it between Sochi and Novosibirsk. Lol
No migrants, no Ursula, no LGBT prides. Only true values

 

[friedrich5000]

I heard this maybe for a decade already.
scary stories for the night to make some banana republics like Bahamas or uae more attractive

Well now things are more serious, Fuhrer Ursula is in desperate need for big money for defense and green ideology projects

Why anyone in their mind need this shitty EU for vacations?
There is great places in russia for it between Sochi and Novosibirsk. Lol
No migrants, no Ursula, no LGBT prides. Only true values

Shitty in terms of taxation, immigrants. Other that that it's a nice place I love Greece/Italy etc.
Actually There are many migrants in Russia from post soviet republics like Uzbekistan, Georgia
Well someone dares to criticize EU then it means he is Russia lover ? What the hell ... go on twitter please, Im sure you will find people to argue with there.
There are other nice places with moderate taxation like US florida pretty good for someone on cap gains.

 

[hlepic211]

The passport is fine. But life in the EU is not, well at least it maybe was 5-7 years ago (peaked). Quality of life is declining, healthcare is getting worse, migration, stupid laws, bureaucracy, taxes, privacy, faggots everywhere etc.

EU passport holder here. Lived previously in the Baltics, Spain, Gib, Switzerland. Finally doing my check-out in a couple of months.

IMHO the EU economy is not sustainable. Constantly rising taxes, pension cuts, you can feel it if you're a local.

 

[Lord Palmerstone]

You was not able to answer ever basic questions regarding your comments.

So, another example with lies of your words:
https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get
https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/facts-about-seeking-asylum-uk
Your "38 pounds per day" = ~1140 per month, in real world (with proofs of link a above) transform to 8.86 pounds per week = ~36 per month.
Huge money for people who not allowed to work legally.
Lol.

As I said before - you are typical example of people who spread false information, but claim it's a somehow real information. I will not bother to continue this dialogue anymore.

And neither shall I - Someone remarked that I was deranged earlier --- Maybe we can actually see who is --- Have a good life in the EUSSR my friend .... and do start preparing for your Digital Euro controlled by EU Govts - (would anyone seriously trust Macron etc with their finances------ moreover, UVDL, her Commission and the silver haired convicted criminal to be absolutely truthful about anything on this matter) ...... its only 6 months away ---- after that ---- it's 'game over'! If you wish to know more, read the WEF report of the strategy for the future ............... it's all there.
And please desist in using a BBC/CNN expression called misinformation (when in fact THEY are the leading proponents of that strategy) - just next time you travel around Europe do so with you eyes open and you will notice a common denominator (not withstanding the fact that all Governents are broke and especially their City Councils) check out Munich, Lisbon, Helsinki -------- I could go on --------- they are all under infrastructure works (road closures, pedestrian, e-scooter etc areas) and in plain sight, if you read the contractors boards, there is the EU flag!!

 

[LFGC]

@Alonzo Cry more, the numbers I provided are factual. They're from Knight Frank a venerable source of data on UHNWIs. The fact US leads Europe is solely due to bloated tech valuations, something challenged greatly by the recent rise of China and the in particular the DeepSeek AI event a few months ago. Europe is poised for monumental growth as it decouples from the US, focuses on it's own interests, and aligns more closely with it's largest export market China. There is a wealth of data that backs this prediction too.

https://investment-international.co...ve-years-knight-frank/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[LFGC]

@Alonzo didn't fit your echo chamber huh? So much for the Google is wrong cope, whats your source of data? Hope you're signed up for the green card lottery, nice red state awaits you, get out of the EUSSR now! Hopefully you get a passport too, can pay less than you do in the EU.

 

[Alonzo]

Cry more, the numbers I provided are factual.

It’s not kid. You don’t have any valid arguments to be honest. Only relying on AI assistants to defend yourself

 

[LFGC]

Knight Frank is an AI agent? Show us your data!!! You're invalidating your own assertion. Kid? Is that the best you can do?

Isn't this forum for successful entrepreneurs, not working class euro-poor copers seething with mob envy and blathering about taxes and social problems they cannot escape due to being stuck in one place?