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why is european citizenship bad?

Why so mean? Can we keep it a bit civil, please?

I agree. That user has been given a warning and post has been deleted. The behavior from @LFGC was inappropriate in the course of discourse.

P.S Such further behavior will lead to a ban if he cannot control his emotions.
 
This misinformation is parroted on this forum commonly about the EU and even Switzerland. The fact is the EU is great, there are 185k UHNWIs and 440 billionaires with 2.2T EUR in assets, that doesn't include CH (the foremost capital for UHNWIs), UK, or RU which has many more billionaires and UHWNIs.

The reality is for one to avoid taxes one must have actual wealth versus a small salary and mobility due to having an online business. The majority here are looking for an easy way to avoid paying income taxes which simply doesn't exist. It requires complex structures and mobility far above just having an online business, such as having multiple homes and splitting time, being able to maintain complex structures, and earning a large portion of your income from investments versus salary.

An opinion can't be 'misinformation', because it is, hold on, an opinion. Also, the numbers don't lie. Look at how many UHNWI are leaving. UK, albeit not EU any longer, is a perfect example. I'm seeing lots of multinationals setting up shop in Bermuda as well.
 
"There is no downside to EU citizenship; ................" - have you been drinking ? How can you say such a false widespread comment of positivity.
Dare I say its good for all the incoming migrants as they have nothing to be confiscated and everything is provided for them..... as fo the rest, well yipeekayay, as promised by the silver haired convicted criminal, later this year all your Euri will become electronic - ie contriolled by the EU commission 'snouts in the trough' thieves ---- so 15 minute cities, (petrol rations) not permitted to buy meat (only insects), and cars, oh yes did you really want to buy a battery car ? (no more 'gaz guzzlin' V8s for you) - Oh Yes --- DISTOPIA is just around the corner for EU CITIZENS!!!!!!!

In fact, this message is a perfect example of why we shouldn't listen to people calling for leaving Europe. The amount of distorted information, fabrications and personal attacks is simply beyond all imaginable limits. Until sober arguments and reasons appear, these words are nothing more than meaningless scribbling on the fence.;)

the arguments about global taxes in the next 10 years are just ridiculous. it's much more likely that a house by the sea in the carribean region will be washed away into the sea during the next hurricanes/storms than global taxes in Europe. lol
 
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There are a few tax free places, UAE being one, but you can also reside in the UK tax free under FIG, Ireland, Spain, Italy, and various other places using non-dom, flat tax, or similar schemes. My point was the endless blather about the EU being bad are wholly untrue. EU is bliss, for those with the means, as is anywhere else.
Foreign income ≠ Liable for Income tax. Dividends, Royalties and Interest have separate rates. It’s not even comparable
 
In fact, this message is a perfect example of why we shouldn't listen to people calling for leaving Europe. The amount of distorted information, fabrications and personal attacks is simply beyond all imaginable limits. Until sober arguments and reasons appear, these words are nothing more than meaningless scribbling on the fence.;)

the arguments about global taxes in the next 10 years are just ridiculous. it's much more likely that a house by the sea in the carribean region will be washed away into the sea during the next hurricanes/storms than global taxes in Europe. lol
I have kept out of the swath of comments, but do wish to ask you with regard to your accusations that my information is distorted, fabricated and include personal attacks - so let me calmly ask the following ..............
A) Have you heard about the 15 minute cities? If not settle down in a nice easy chair and read into it all and then tell me that that little titbit is distorted or fabricated.
B) Now then meat being rationed - perhaps you might have read about farmers in Netherlands, also Germany and other countries not being permitted to use fertilisers so the crops are weak, they cannot earn any money (which is the purpose) and the Govt buy up your land from you.
Anything fabricated or distorted about this? Its also happening in Canada and surely you know that the biggest private land buyer in USA last year, and in 2023 (after the C.C.P.) is a certain Mr BillyBoy Gates who sits ever year with Ernst Blofeld and discusses forcing the people to eat insects????
C) CBDC anyone - you dont know what this will mean? If you don't, again I recommend you try to understand that to have a Digital Currency you will need an Electronic Wallet and who will control that wallet? Who will block certain purchases (meat, petrol, when they feel like it)
C) Personal attacks - well if its the truth ..... so what --- Christine Laguard IS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL - FACT. and the EU commission led by that (unelected) woman ..... you know the failed German Defence minister, yes that one whose husband has a vaccine factory and had a son who was an accountant with Mckinsey, who just happened to be the EU auditors - I could go on, but I guess these FACTS are already enough.
 
The amount of distorted information, fabrications and personal attacks is simply beyond all imaginable limits.
I have kept out of the swath of comments, but do wish to ask you with regard to your accusations that my information is distorted, fabricated and include personal attacks - so let me calmly ask the following ..............
A) Have you heard about the 15 minute cities?
I once heard about Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame. Now, the good news is that first of all Warhol does have nothing to do with "war" and second of all, nobody should aim to waste his 15 minutes of fame for the act of insulting others. In that sense, why not be a bit more polite to each other. This is a nice forum. If you feel bored, you can join the army and release your pressure there. Trust me.
 
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I have kept out of the swath of comments, but do wish to ask you with regard to your accusations that my information is distorted, fabricated and include personal attacks - so let me calmly ask the following ..............
A) Have you heard about the 15 minute cities? If not settle down in a nice easy chair and read into it all and then tell me that that little titbit is distorted or fabricated.
B) Now then meat being rationed - perhaps you might have read about farmers in Netherlands, also Germany and other countries not being permitted to use fertilisers so the crops are weak, they cannot earn any money (which is the purpose) and the Govt buy up your land from you.
Anything fabricated or distorted about this? Its also happening in Canada and surely you know that the biggest private land buyer in USA last year, and in 2023 (after the C.C.P.) is a certain Mr BillyBoy Gates who sits ever year with Ernst Blofeld and discusses forcing the people to eat insects????
C) CBDC anyone - you dont know what this will mean? If you don't, again I recommend you try to understand that to have a Digital Currency you will need an Electronic Wallet and who will control that wallet? Who will block certain purchases (meat, petrol, when they feel like it)
C) Personal attacks - well if its the truth ..... so what --- Christine Laguard IS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL - FACT. and the EU commission led by that (unelected) woman ..... you know the failed German Defence minister, yes that one whose husband has a vaccine factory and had a son who was an accountant with Mckinsey, who just happened to be the EU auditors - I could go on, but I guess these FACTS are already enough.

I don't really want to have a dialogue with you, but I'm ready to have one if you provide evidence here that in the EU (at least in one country) meat is sold with real restrictions for ordinary people or people are forced to eat insects instead of their usual food.

Before that, sorry, but I won't even waste time.

These are just two of your statements (out of a bunch of others), which are absolutely deceitful.
Regarding the issues of fertilizers, what is given to migrants and refugees for free, etc
believe me, I can tell you a lot (as a person who grew up in a farmer's family and as a person who emigrated to the EU (for business reasons, but still, you didn't specify, and called migrants freeloaders) many years ago, and knows a bunch of real refugees with their 'their everything for free').

but of course, after 30 years of living in the UAE, you know better how things are going in the EU (in each of the 27 countries, and a few more that are not part of it).lol
 
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He made it sound like a good life. So EU is not actually providing them a good life for free? I'm confused
Have you ever read Albert Einstein? He once was German too before he became Swiss and then also American. And that pretty much summarises it, especially if you remember his statement that everything is relative.

If you are living in a country at war and without education, Germany is good. If you are smart and can go to Switzerland or the United States, things become very relative and you probably would not call Germany good anymore.
 
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I don't really want to have a dialogue with you, but I'm ready to have one if you provide evidence here that in the EU (at least in one country) meat is sold with real restrictions for ordinary people or people are forced to eat insects instead of their usual food.

Before that, sorry, but I won't even waste time.

These are just two of your statements (out of a bunch of others), which are absolutely deceitful.
Regarding the issues of fertilizers, what is given to migrants and refugees for free, etc
believe me, I can tell you a lot (as a person who grew up in a farmer's family and as a person who emigrated to the EU (for business reasons, but still, you didn't specify, and called migrants freeloaders) many years ago, and knows a bunch of real refugees with their 'their everything for free').

but of course, after 30 years of living in the UAE, you know better how things are going in the EU (in each of the 27 countries, and a few more that are not part of it).lol
Read my contribution again --- I said DISTOPIA is just around the corner i.e meat/petrol/rationing/free movement etc
As I am married to an EU citizen (a real one not imported) and have a JV with an Italian company (and speak fluent italian). Yes I do know exactly what is going on in that 'EU socialist paradise' and what is indeed further planned.
As far as immigrants being freeloaders I can give you facts about the UK where my offspring contribute to their welfare (as tax-payers)
A) Free Health Care on arrival and continuously thereon (without waiting lists which all natural Brits have to abide by).
B) Free accommodation (heated) and 3 meals a day (as some OAPs 'freeze in their homes' because another politician who lies, 'Rachel from Accounts' has stripped the old and poor of their dignity by removing benefits.
C) Petty Cash of I believe 38 pounds/day so they can keep their mobiles charged and move about to see their fellow illegal immigrant friends and criminals.
These benefits are costing the UK inept idiot (corrupt) Government about 8 million pounds/day ............ 50+ million/week ........ 240+ million/month and that per year is almost 3 billion pounds ------ MONEY VERY WELL SPENT I would say - freeloaders .........................Oh yes!!!!

I know EU countries (Not all admittedly) have similar benefit hand outs -
All this immigration is planned/supported/forced by the UN and their friends WEF/Soros/Gates/etc etc (none of the latter elected of course)
 
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Read my contribution again --- I said DISTOPIA is just around the corner i.e meat/petrol/rationing/free movement etc
As I am married to an EU citizen (a real one not imported) and have a JV with an Italian company (and speak fluent italian). Yes I do know exactly what is going on in that 'EU socialist paradise' and what is indeed further planned.
As far as immigrants being freeloaders I can give you facts about the UK where my offspring contribute to their welfare (as tax-payers)
A) Free Health Care on arrival and continuously thereon (without waiting lists which all natural Brits have to abide by).
B) Free accommodation (heated) and 3 meals a day (as some OAPs 'freeze in their homes' because another politician who lies, 'Rachel from Accounts' has stripped the old and poor of their dignity by removing benefits.
C) Petty Cash of I believe 38 pounds/day so they can keep their mobiles charged and move about to see their fellow illegal immigrant friends and criminals.
These benefits are costing the UK inept idiot (corrupt) Government about 8 million pounds/day ............ 50+ million/week ........ 240+ million/month and that per year is almost 3 billion pounds ------ MONEY VERY WELL SPENT I would say - freeloaders .........................Oh yes!!!!

I know EU countries (Not all admittedly) have similar benefit hand outs -
All this immigration is planned/supported/forced by the UN and their friends WEF/Soros/Gates/etc etc (none of the latter elected of course)
You was not able to answer ever basic questions regarding your comments.

So, another example with lies of your words:
https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get
https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/facts-about-seeking-asylum-uk
Your "38 pounds per day" = ~1140 per month, in real world (with proofs of link a above) transform to 8.86 pounds per week = ~36 per month.
Huge money for people who not allowed to work legally.
Lol.

As I said before - you are typical example of people who spread false information, but claim it's a somehow real information. I will not bother to continue this dialogue anymore.
 
As I am married to an EU citizen (a real one not imported)
If you move, you can call yourself imported.

These benefits are costing the UK inept idiot (corrupt) Government about 8 million pounds/day
A decade ago they blamed the EU for their losses. Now, it is the immigrants. Once they are gone, they blame it on their Ghanian doctors.

Politics is about planning properly and taking responsibility. If your planning fails, you cannot blame the means that you tried to use to solve other problems. It is like if you build a house in LA and when the fire comes, you blame the wood of the house for burning. You should have paid more for concrete.

............ 50+ million/week ........
Please fix you keyboard. You are not in Europe and should be able to afford a new one ;)
 
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