yes we can always have an office anywhere, no restriction. likewise freezone could always do business with mainland but with penaltiesI have been able to rent an office on the mainland using my RAKEZ company.
The freezone told me I could do that.
https://dls-dubai.com/en/99-of-free...bai-remain-0-corporate-tax-why/#reading-startis this blog article out yet? @Fred
Good morning everyone, I have hardly ever written on this group! I am a European who deals with company openings in the Emirates and let's just say that we are the industry leader in a couple of countries.
I read the whole discussion but I find the interpretation completely wrong.
I have studied the legislation in depth and if there is no word on extra-UAE sales it is very simple, they will not be taxed and are not even considered.
Reason 1 they would also have to tax OFFSHORE companies as well as FREEZONE and this is virtually impossible (they would lose their substance and use) they have not mentioned them in the legislation simply because they cannot conduct business in the UAE.
In category 1 it is amply specified that freezones will not be taxed if they work with other freezones as long as they do not conduct "excluded" activities (very few) so it means that if I have a marketing company and I offer the service to a freezone company I will not be taxed. Now explain to me how you think you will be taxed if you sell the same service outside the Emirates?
Category two i.e. qualified activities are exactly the activities that can remain tax-free even if they are carried out in the mainland or in designated areas by freezone companies. The whole world is interpreting that 'outside free zones' as 'the rest of the world' but it is not and cannot be so!
I will explain why:
why should they put a list of minimum activities that the freezone can do in the world when they can do it without paying CT in all freezones in Dubai? Which I remind you in the end are within the emirates....
The issue stems from the misuse of the freezones which have always worked in a non-compliant manner in the mainland, so now with the corporate tax they had to fix things.
To think that a company in freezone can only be tax exempt for all its activities if it works with freezone is sheer madness. Category 2 applies to the mainland and designated zones not to the rest of the world
Anyone who needs assistance should write to me via message! We will also do bookkeeping and declarations and you will see that it will be so in the end
I also ask the administrator if it is possible to sponsor my services and have a reliability badge (after showing all business rating/feedback and creditworthiness)
Meydan Freezone Autorithy does not seem to think so:
https://www.meydanfz.ae/uae-corporate-tax-explained/
Also, you haven't answered me about what will happen to offshore companies! Why can't they tax freezone on foreign income and leave it exempt for offshore
Otherwise you could just open a company, get a residence visa and work with an offshore UAE company like a Rak ICC
Don't go very far today Portugal allows you to do what you say by staying in Europe and opening a company in Delaware or Hong Kong or even an LLP in the UK
According to what you say it would be enough to open:
Company in Dubai anywhere just to get residency visa leaving it inactive
Then open an offshore RAK ICC as a holding company
Open a company in Hong Kong, Delaware or UK held by RAK ICC and administered by a trustee
0% tax company collects > RAK ICC company receives dividends > RAK ICC distributes Dividends to personal Emirati account
All without paying a euro in tax
End of story and taxation
Beside of that we have covered this in our latest blog article with Point 4. here:According to what you say it would be enough to open:
Company in Dubai anywhere just to get residency visa leaving it inactive
Then open an offshore RAK ICC as a holding company
Open a company in Hong Kong, Delaware or UK held by RAK ICC and administered by a trustee
0% tax company collects > RAK ICC company receives dividends > RAK ICC distributes Dividends to personal Emirati account
All without paying a euro in tax
End of story and taxation
Which banks do you work with in the UAE?I know perfectly well how an offshore structure works!
The RAK ICC can be turned into a foundation in less than 24 hours with a final beneficiary
We can open accounts for RAK ICC without any problem in the Emirates (provided you have a residence visa) or in overseas jurisdictions
The problem with IFZA as a holding company is that in the licence it mentions "Investment in Commercial Enterprises & Management" which is not understood by most states and banks in the world
We are able to open commercial accounts in Switzerland and Europe for Emirati companies...
I wrote to an important manager of a freezone today and he did not give me a definite answer, this is definitely out of line.
I remain convinced of the concept that it would not make sense to tax income that comes in from abroad and would benefit from being spent in the local economy! I do not understand how it is possible that if I invoice abroad I am taxed but if I invoice in a freezone I am not.
It would be simple enough to make everything square from a tax point of view:
Company "Alfa" in IFZA (Marketing) 100% invoiced in Spain
Beta" company in another freezone or always IFZA re-invoices the costs to "Alpha" company
Result neither Alfa nor Beta pays tax
In my opinion this cannot be so
You are wrong. Reason 1 you mentioned above. Offshore means outside jurisidiction where the management and control resides. So Jebel Ali offshore, is onshore when you manage and control that from UAE. This is what the new tax law says in line with OECD. An offshore company controlled and managed from UK would be resident in UK and offshore not tax resident of the UAE. The company moves with the tax residence of where the ultimate management and control is exercised.Good morning everyone, I have hardly ever written on this group! I am a European who deals with company openings in the Emirates and let's just say that we are the industry leader in a couple of countries.
I read the whole discussion but I find the interpretation completely wrong.
I have studied the legislation in depth and if there is no word on extra-UAE sales it is very simple, they will not be taxed and are not even considered.
Reason 1 they would also have to tax OFFSHORE companies as well as FREEZONE and this is virtually impossible (they would lose their substance and use) they have not mentioned them in the legislation simply because they cannot conduct business in the UAE.
In category 1 it is amply specified that freezones will not be taxed if they work with other freezones as long as they do not conduct "excluded" activities (very few) so it means that if I have a marketing company and I offer the service to a freezone company I will not be taxed. Now explain to me how you think you will be taxed if you sell the same service outside the Emirates?
Category two i.e. qualified activities are exactly the activities that can remain tax-free even if they are carried out in the mainland or in designated areas by freezone companies. The whole world is interpreting that 'outside free zones' as 'the rest of the world' but it is not and cannot be so!
I will explain why:
why should they put a list of minimum activities that the freezone can do in the world when they can do it without paying CT in all freezones in Dubai? Which I remind you in the end are within the emirates....
The issue stems from the misuse of the freezones which have always worked in a non-compliant manner in the mainland, so now with the corporate tax they had to fix things.
To think that a company in freezone can only be tax exempt for all its activities if it works with freezone is sheer madness. Category 2 applies to the mainland and designated zones not to the rest of the world
Anyone who needs assistance should write to me via message! We will also do bookkeeping and declarations and you will see that it will be so in the end
I also ask the administrator if it is possible to sponsor my services and have a reliability badge (after showing all business rating/feedback and creditworthiness)
Thats what the statute says in its relevant law. 9% tax on mainland companies on your profit;. It does not say Terrotorial or exemption for "foreign clients"Now explain to me how you think you will be taxed if you sell the same service outside the Emirates?"
Wrong, it does not say that. Mainland companies have no exemptions - read the relevant law. It clearly states "qualifying freezone companies " in regards to "qualifying activities" it has no geographical restriction or further information on this.Category two i.e. qualified activities are exactly the activities that can remain tax-free even if they are carried out in the mainland or in designated areas by freezone companies. The whole world is interpreting that 'outside free zones' as 'the rest of the world' but it is not and cannot be so!
nice scenario and yes you could, but lets ignore GAAP and transferpricing and artificial structures of tax avoidance. Technically not passing many tests, but enforcement lacking for small numbers. Again also the reason EU came down hard - they cant keep the tap open , draining money to tax free zones and abuse like you mentioned aboveI know perfectly well how an offshore structure works!
The RAK ICC can be turned into a foundation in less than 24 hours with a final beneficiary
We can open accounts for RAK ICC without any problem in the Emirates (provided you have a residence visa) or in overseas jurisdictions
The problem with IFZA as a holding company is that in the licence it mentions "Investment in Commercial Enterprises & Management" which is not understood by most states and banks in the world
We are able to open commercial accounts in Switzerland and Europe for Emirati companies...
I wrote to an important manager of a freezone today and he did not give me a definite answer, this is definitely out of line.
I remain convinced of the concept that it would not make sense to tax income that comes in from abroad and would benefit from being spent in the local economy! I do not understand how it is possible that if I invoice abroad I am taxed but if I invoice in a freezone I am not.
It would be simple enough to make everything square from a tax point of view:
Company "Alfa" in IFZA (Marketing) 100% invoiced in Spain
Beta" company in another freezone or always IFZA re-invoices the costs to "Alpha" company
Result neither Alfa nor Beta pays tax
In my opinion this cannot be so
Don't go very far today Portugal allows you to do what you say by staying in Europe and opening a company in Delaware or Hong Kong or even an LLP in the UK
I am very much afraid of committing a genuine tax mistake in the UAE - lack of the rule of law practice makes it quite dangerous to operate with any entities. That is my biggest problem
Any transactions with natural persons, except transactions in relation to the Qualifying Activities specified under paragraphs (d), (f), (g) and (j) of Clause (1) of Article (2) of this Decision
Depends on whether they meant "UAE natural persons" or "any natural persons globally".so pretty much B2C can't be taxed with 0% tax?
That seems very clear, that is why I am envious for Fred to have 90% of his clients who are not selling to non-free zone individualsdid anyone notice that excluded activity is
does this mean if you have clients that are natural persons, or they pay you from their personal account it is considered excluded activity?
so pretty much B2C can't be taxed with 0% tax?
Ministerial Decisions are now public and almost completed - at least the most important ones.Depends on whether they meant "UAE natural persons" or "any natural persons globally".
The common sense says "UAE persons", but there is no clarity in this matter.
SORRY TO SAY IT is highly disorgasnised processMinisterial Decisions are now public and almost completed - at least the most important ones.
That's the fundament - now the Federal Tax Authority provides further Clarifications.
Wait for it.
I understand this and I'm not a fan of it either but to be honest it's in every more or less developed country the procedure.SORRY TO SAY IT is highly disorgasnised process
Depends on whether they meant "UAE natural persons" or "any natural persons globally".
The common sense says "UAE persons", but there is no clarity in this matter.
Very fair point. And I'm in agreement with you.Deloitte has to be very careful - they would be crazy to even hint at something, which then won't come to be. They have to stick to official documents, not hopes and rumors.
I think there is absolutely nothing official at this point to support those claims by Fred. However, I think he does have a point, in that it's possible that such income will be continue to be exempt from CIT.
I think at this point, it's best to just wait for further clarification, which will come at some point. They can't just leave things this unclear forever.
As long as there is no clarification, I would also assume that income from foreign clients will be subject to CIT.
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