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Can honestly say in my time being in Malaysia, never really even noticed it was islamic, as it's not really in your face, especially in KL, Penang, even Langkawi, few elements such as beaches, etc or food sure but it's not like say the middle east/gulf, rather laid back.

Besides if you want Bali is always a option (not islamic)
 
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If you are with a family with kids can understand yes + agree to live in a very muslim country (for asia), ok.

Otherwise I dont see. KL is very boring compare to BKK. Penang nothing special and not so developed/attracted either compare to the competitor places..
I am single and it is ok for me. Malaysia is a Muslim country but I don't feel it. I can spend more than half year in Gergetown or KL and less than half year in Phuket. Better Malaysia than Europe :)
 
The first few times one goes to KL it seems boring and too Islamic.

Once you start knowing where to go, you realize KL is not really Muslim, especially when 45% of the population are of Chinese descent.

Single people can easily date Chinese girls, which are abundant in shopping malls, gyms, etc.

I still think Thailand is superior though, but KL is a pretty solid place to live or spend time in.
 
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The first few times one goes to KL it seems boring and too Islamic.

Once you start knowing where to go, you realize KL is not really Muslim, especially when 45% of the population are of Chinese descent.

Single people can easily date Chinese girls, which are abundant in shopping malls, gyms, etc.

I still think Thailand is superior though, but KL is a pretty solid place to live or spend time in.
The biggest minus is the lack of lady boys. Except this it is ok :D
 
New Update: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/economy/40043831

  1. Corporate Income Tax: The government is considering reducing the corporate income-tax rate from 20% to 15%, aligning with the Global Minimum Tax (GMT) framework. This aims to make Thailand more attractive to international investors and bring the country in line with global taxation standards.
  2. Personal Income Tax: A dramatic proposal suggests lowering the personal-income-tax rate from 35% to 15%. The primary objective is to incentivise skilled professionals to work in Thailand, potentially attracting global talent to the country's growing economy.
 
New Update: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/economy/40043831

  1. Corporate Income Tax: The government is considering reducing the corporate income-tax rate from 20% to 15%, aligning with the Global Minimum Tax (GMT) framework. This aims to make Thailand more attractive to international investors and bring the country in line with global taxation standards.
  2. Personal Income Tax: A dramatic proposal suggests lowering the personal-income-tax rate from 35% to 15%. The primary objective is to incentivise skilled professionals to work in Thailand, potentially attracting global talent to the country's growing economy.
If this does get voted in, it wouldn't be for 2025 but maybe for 2026 or onwards right?
 
KL slaps hard what u talking about

Compare to BKK? really? o_O

KL is ok...

SGD much better

HK is heaven.


I had dinner tonight with 5/6 mid 30s european guys (into crypto); they lived in HK for 6years (2015-2021), and until now in SGD.. some move in BKK now.

All same feedback :

HK changed a lot (more negative now).
SGD boring AF.
 
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regarding HK, how do you think it is for western passport holders in case the nutjobs expand the war to China?

I could foresee my accounts blocked etc in HK if the US and as a consequence the western vassal states would put sanctions on China, as China has to retaliate and implement the same.
SG, ID, MY, TH and even PH seem to be much better in that regard, whereas Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia might be more prone to pursue the same.
 
regarding HK, how do you think it is for western passport holders in case the nutjobs expand the war to China?

I could foresee my accounts blocked etc in HK if the US and as a consequence the western vassal states would put sanctions on China, as China has to retaliate and implement the same.
SG, ID, MY, TH and even PH seem to be much better in that regard, whereas Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia might be more prone to pursue the same.
Depends on nationality.

If American yes, if British 'perhaps', if Australian 50/50.

UK would be used as the 'peace-maker', Australia would be a direct threat (launch pad), US is the nemisis.

A lot of these things are dealt with through back-channels.

I.e In Thailand i have three routes to the Head of State for the UK to harvest if Thailand was turning to say China (long-term relationships, or relationships via family).

Similar in HK/China through business partners, etc, a lot of calming down things is done via back-channels via relationships.

The US Never learned to harvest its civilian relationships abroad, the UK has soft-power specifically because it does.
 
I live in malta and I can tell you its the best option in the whole world when it comes to taxation, location (away from middle east, ukraine/ russia and china) which is a big plus, weather is plus, english is a plus, people are decent not the friendlist but are nice, access to EU is great.

CFC rules are there but the concept of non domicile company is fantastic, you can form a company outside malta and manage it, you pay tax on only the money you bring in to Malta, it really helps with tax optimisation. And then, you pay 5k a year and claim non dom status on your foreign income. What else do you want?
And what is the cost for this??
What level of incomes does it worth to do it for???
Thank you
 
The only real change my end is IF they start taxing companies overseas where their non-active shareholders (majority) reside in Thailand but operations are outside of Thailand - and even then the activity usually occurs in dividends years.
@wellington can you kindly spend some of your precious time to clarify??
All are from different answers you provided in this thread so most don’t link between them Thank you !

So if you’re a shareholder and taking dividends often inside the year, but never remitting them inside Thailand, is it currently a risk / problem? Can’t it be considered that you actually use the company / work through this / to make income ? (Despite not remitting in Thailand). - never remitting anything in Thailand, never doing any job with Thai customers etc.
talking about online services & consulting, NOTHING crypto related.
Thailand will look at people not paying taxes, and size the tax amount up based on how much you bring in annually.
What if you pay taxes having a Thai job or company and all your offshore companies income (dividends?) never remitted in Thailand?
Basically Thailand isn’t the place for those that wish to operate a offshore company but live off the income
What if one want to operate an offshore but NEVER remit or live off this income? (And living with another - local income - or previous savings inside Thailand?). So one operate the offshore, send the money offshore, customers offshore and nothing to do with Thailand? (But yes RD might consider that offshore is operated from the 100% shareholder the guy tax resident of Thailand?)
If you don't remit income then you don't have to file...
No remit anything from the offshore companies. They have eu or other customers, paying them, then you take the dividends to offshore and keep them there.
No, that's not what happens, at worst case if there is a feeling of tax evasion (under-reporting) they just flag the passport (if foreigner) and freeze the accounts, until a payment plan is enacted (likely paid in full immediately if a foreigner) if Thai paid over a number of years (from experience observed from watching the boat maintenance guy go through this recently).
What do you mean flag your passport???
What accounts they freeze? Local or worldwide?
Anything i earn now overseas is tax exempt if structured (dividends) or income from markets/assets and non-remitted, but would also be offset by 'principle-rule' if remitted.
As I described? What would be the best structure? I read about offshore company owned by another offshore. What if you just have one offshore and get payments from customers (everything outside Thailand), get dividends often to your personal offshore account and never remitting anything??
He does trade shitcoins makes 10m$ overseas, leaves Thailand the following tax year for 180+ days then returns to thailand he can remit that 10m$ tax free into thailand as it's now 'new principle' value, even though he made those profits whilst sitting in a bar getting head from a LB, but as it was done on overseas exchanges (decentralised/centralised) and deposited to overseas accounts (or left in stablecoins) its not under the territorial tax of Thailand.
Yes but the RD law says “if work performed in Thailand, so in this case work performed in Thailand (during the LB BJ head).. so what is the case here?
AGAIN... good accountant and confirmed mark-to-market valuation upto 31/1/23.
Could you suggest one? I asked a few, everyone says something different and with no base
Thank you
 
@wellington can you kindly spend some of your precious time to clarify??
All are from different answers you provided in this thread so most don’t link between them Thank you !
Thailand doesn't have CRF rules....

Simple as that.

Your company overseas isn't brought onshore if you live in Thailand, whereas if you live in say the UK it is.

Thats active management or passive management.

The Key is ensuring the company doesn't do business directly or indirectly within Thailand.
 
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The Key is ensuring the company doesn't do business directly or indirectly within Thailand.
Thank you!!
Yes but they can say that the “jobs” of the offshore company (that was doing services for the European customers, and the dividends were going to offshore personal account of mine etc), was doing the “work” inside Thailand (the “real owner of the company/ubo” sitting in a chair in Thailand doing all these). Also, as there is not trust to the directors there at the offshore company region, the 100% shareholder (Thai tax resident) does all the bank transactions while inside Thailand so can this create issues?
No remittances in Thailand, no physical products, no Thai customers, no crypto, nothing illegal.
Thank you
 
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