How on earth is EUSSR still standing?

[JohnnyDoe]

good food,

Really?

stable economy (it's an EU country)

That’s a contradiction in terms.

 

[Marshal]

Really?

Yes, finger-lickin' good!

 

[maxiz]

No need to have a rental contract at all, if you manage to get into the property, legally or illegally, you'll live rent free (including utilities) until the court tells the police to kick you out a few years down the line, and don't expect to get any money from the squatters... I know it sounds crazy... I've learned the hard way...

I understand more than ever moving to Dubai or any other jurisdiction far from the EUSSR.

what about insurance? Is there insurance against ocupas?

 

[Radko]

what about insurance? Is there insurance against ocupas?

There are some companies that are starting to offer insurance in the event of Okupas taking over your home, but it's not clear how the insurance company will act when the time comes (it's difficult to trust insurance companies these days, they are experts at coming up with excuses to not pay for anything.)

But if the insurance company decides to pay there will be a limit to how much they pay you. I seriously doubt they will pay from beginning to end, which can take anywhere from 1 to 5 years as many Okupas are now using lawyers to extend the process.

You would need to do your own research and hopefully you'll find the right insurance in case you need it (as of today 25K homes have been occupied by Okupas since January of this year, 25000 homes is a lot!)

 

[Marshal]

(as of today 25K homes have been occupied by Okupas since January of this year, 25000 homes is a lot!)

And I wondered why it's so cheap to buy a property in Spain

 

[Radko]

And I wondered why it's so cheap to buy a property in Spain

I'm selling mine, with Okupas included, Lol!

 

[Jade33]

An old friend, who was born in Sicily, (no comment about that,) said to me: "as long as there is no body there is no crime."

In the case of my squatters there are three of them enjoying free electricity, free water, my furniture, my Tv set, my laundry machine, my air conditioning, and of course the swimming pool, we have to thank the Communist government of Spain for that.

I mean they could "suffer" a home invasion right? or they could be a small explosion on the grid supply etc . just giving them carte blanche as they go seems to easy, i would plot some "surprises" every couple of months untill they are fed up

 

[Radko]

I mean they could "suffer" a home invasion right? or they could be a small explosion on the grid supply etc . just giving them carte blanche as they go seems to easy, i would plot some "surprises" every couple of months untill they are fed up

I'm working on it as we speak

I need to entertain myself, at this point I don't care how much longer it takes, I know they will be charged with "home invasions" (all three of them) punishable with up to 3 years in jail (a criminal lawyer is working on the case, thank God I had litigation insurance in the event of Okupas staying in my property, so the insurance company is paying the lawyer.)

Let's see who has the last laugh

 

[marioIT]

Have you seen the letter THierry Breton (EU commissaire) sent to Elon Musk right after he announced the Trump's interview on X?
(just click on it and it zooms)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823033048109367549

and now, a few days later, got out that he sent that letter without EU permission lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823557395974434966

luckily my man elon is not scared and answered correctly

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823076043017630114

 

[JosephLL]

Is there a more lizardly form of life on earth than an EU aparatchik in Brussels ??

 

[diatessaron]

Not too long ago I was looking to invest in this specific type of business in the EU. It turned out these communists have come up with so many regulations that covering the costs of "figuring it all out" would be about 60% of the cost of the entire investment. And figuring it all out means integrating and paying 3rd parties a lot of money just so we would be compliant with whatever the heck some guy in a EU parliament office came up with.

 

[churumbelo]

Massive difference between a Tenant and a Squatter, 20k homes have been occupied by Squatters during the last year in Spain, it takes anywhere from 1 to 2 years to kick them out, and you are not allowed to cut the electricity or the water supply, if you do you get charged and sentenced for coercion, punishable with up to 2 years in jail plus a fine, it doesn't matter if it's your primary or secondary home, Squatters are protected by the Communist government, so yes this is definitely the EUSSR, I'll be selling that summer home once I can get rid of the squatters and I'll never go back to Spain. Portugal is no different, another Communists government.

I confirm this is 100% true. And many of these squatters know the law better than the average citizen, as a matter of fact, they are advised by NGOs (funded with public money) on how to do it to delay the procedures and stay as long as possible and take advantage of the system. One of the first things the squatters do once they break into a house, is calling the police. They call the police to let them know that they have broken into a house and they are staying there. So now the police is aware of it and if the owner try to kick them out using "unofficial" means, they are even more protected. The owner must follow now the legal procedure in the courthouse.

Recently they passed a new law and now they even limit the price you can rent your property, not only to the current tenant, but to the next tenant. They have an official price index by the government, and you cannot rent your property at a higher price. But also, if the current tenant leaves and you find a new one, you cannot charge the new tenant more than you were charging to the previous tenant.
Not to mention that if they stop paying you, you will have serious issues to kick them out, as in your case. It might take a couple of years, you spend a lot of money in legal procedures, and when you eventually kick them out, they destroy your house and steal even the electricity cables if they want, and you won't recover any of your money.

Your mistake was to buy a property in Spain. For which you paid high taxes and fees and the Government does not protect you but the opposite.

 

[jafo]

I confirm this is 100% true. And many of these squatters know the law better than the average citizen, as a matter of fact, they are advised by NGOs (funded with public money) on how to do it to delay the procedures and stay as long as possible and take advantage of the system. One of the first things the squatters do once they break into a house, is calling the police. They call the police to let them know that they have broken into a house and they are staying there. So now the police is aware of it and if the owner try to kick them out using "unofficial" means, they are even more protected. The owner must follow now the legal procedure in the courthouse.

Recently they passed a new law and now they even limit the price you can rent your property, not only to the current tenant, but to the next tenant. They have an official price index by the government, and you cannot rent your property at a higher price. But also, if the current tenant leaves and you find a new one, you cannot charge the new tenant more than you were charging to the previous tenant.
Not to mention that if they stop paying you, you will have serious issues to kick them out, as in your case. It might take a couple of years, you spend a lot of money in legal procedures, and when you eventually kick them out, they destroy your house and steal even the electricity cables if they want, and you won't recover any of your money.

Your mistake was to buy a property in Spain. For which you paid high taxes and fees and the Government does not protect you but the opposite.

Holy moly!
NGL, I learned about this through @Radko , but every time one of you shares your experiences, I start looking for my "Prozac" (not the RX one ...I don't take those... I'm talking about the "spiritual consultant/nurse" ).

This was a depressing but enlightening read. Thank you for sharing @churumbelo

 

[churumbelo]

Holy moly!
NGL, I learned about this through @Radko , but every time one of you shares your experiences, I start looking for my "Prozac" (not the RX one ...I don't take those... I'm talking about the "spiritual consultant/nurse" ).

This was a depressing but enlightening read. Thank you for sharing @churumbelo

To make it even more clear, I am from Spain, although I do not live there, and I would not buy any residential property in Spain. I have some connections to acquire properties in my region (mainly from foreclosures) every now and then before they go public at a very good prices below market price, but I am not interested. Some relatives they have bought some, but well, at least they live in Spain near the properties. Being abroad I would not do it.

I remember the news of a squatter who broke into a small hotel in Malaga (during Covid time), took the whole hotel an he had it listed on Booking.com and other platforms while the owner (British woman I believe) was fighting it in the courthouse. A TV reporter went there with the owner's attorney to speak to the squatter, and the squatter on live TV threatened that if they dared to go to the hotel again he would kill them with his AK-47 (maybe bluffing, I don't know), but in any case, that shows how bad the situation is. No fucks given.

Just found the news: Okupa un hotel en Málaga y alquila las habitaciones: "Tengo un kalashnikov y te corto en dos"

 

[Martin Everson]

Recently they passed a new law and now they even limit the price you can rent your property, not only to the current tenant, but to the next tenant. They have an official price index by the government, and you cannot rent your property at a higher price. But also, if the current tenant leaves and you find a new one, you cannot charge the new tenant more than you were charging to the previous tenant.

Sadly this is happening in other EU countries also and will only spread.

What the new rent control rules in the Netherlands mean for you​

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/06/what-the-new-rent-control-rules-in-the-netherlands-mean-for-you/

 

[12345]

My friend is selling paints and chemical products in Germany and EU countries and currently the "enviromental fees and taxes" are far higher than the cost of production...
The money is going straight to immigrants or green companies I suppose because it's not getting any better. I am waiting 4 months for VAT registration in Germany... total taxation of 50-60% - where is this money going?

 

[churumbelo]

Sadly this is happening in other EU countries also and will only spread.

What the new rent control rules in the Netherlands mean for you​

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/06/what-the-new-rent-control-rules-in-the-netherlands-mean-for-you/

Yes, I am aware of it. Stupid measures that do not work.

But in other countries they do not have the squatters problem like in Spain (for many years now), which is even worse. And some politicians encouraging the occupation of properties. For instance, the mayor of Barcelona for the last 8 years.

 

[jafo]

Gee whiz! After reading the last four messages, I've had enough internet for today. I need a drink! These latest "developments" in EUSSR have been quite disappointing lately!

 

[wellington]

... because Europeans refuse to upsticks and leave... hence it continues to stand.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2024/0...out-litter-left-on-beaches-a-lack-of-respect/
A friend moved back last year and returned a month later, he asked his friends why they have allowed it to turn to a shithole, and the amount of paperwork - they just shrugged, like a boiling frog.

 

[marioIT]

he asked his friends why they have allowed it to turn to a shithole, and the amount of paperwork - they just shrugged, like a boiling frog.

The boiling frog situation in western europe is true... it's absurd.
crazy dumb people starting small businesses (on subsidies) in places where there's no market, paying like 30% for socials (uncapped), plus 25-30% of corp tax, plus the income tax, plus all the other small taxes on everything... and on top of that the laws and bureaucracy that increase every year
keeping their businesses alive and just barely making it pretty much on basic income range working all day long, or even dumber ones doing it at a loss, waiting for the next round of subsidized loans, wanting more EU as those are "eu funds", so "we need more eu" lol.
but if you take those funds it clearly states you will not relocate for the next 5 years... thus keeping them locked-in...

And they're like that just because they don't want to pack their two/three things they own and relocate like 1hr away by plane.
Their finances are burning year after year and they don't realize it anymore, they think like "things will all sort themselves out next election...".
if you start asking them serious questions like how you're gonna live in retirement age, how much will be your state pension since you're paying so much for it...
they become quiet and look at you like this, like you're the weirdo lol:

but yeah, continue like that... good luck!