We are waiting already one week, two weeks is the max for me.Guys please just wait for a response from @Pschiff on the matter with Qenta. Don't complicate situation right now for yourselves.
The receiver, in his recent report, writes himself customers should contact EPB =Qenta and ask about situation. He even uses the word claims.Guys please just wait for a response from @Pschiff on the matter with Qenta. Don't complicate situation right now for yourselves.
That is certainly not fair to me. I already lost over $10 million in cash that I put into the bank. I never took one penny out. I also didn't do anything wrong, and neither did any employee of the bank. So I'm not coming out of pocket another $65 million or so. OCFI, the IRS, the other J5 tax Chiefs, and a few "journalists" are 100% responsible for this situation. So either you guys sue them, or wait for your money. My lawyer is looking into possibly organizing a class action lawsuit on behalf of customers. I also want to get greater clarity into the Qenta situation. I am still waiting to hear from them and the receiver on that. If there is a problem there, than a lawsuit for damages is more viable.The only fair solution to this mess would be for Schiff to make all opt-in and opt-out clients whole in cash within a set timeframe, i.e. next 60 days. To execute this, there should be some agreement between Schiff and all customers, where they surrender the funds at Qenta and under receivership to Schiff. This is the best and fairest solution as all customers are made whole and Schiff will be able to recover the money held by the receiver and at Qenta himself.
That's not true. The bank never made any loans and customer funds were never at risk. There was more than enough cash to make every customer and all creditors whole on the date the bank was unnecessarily put into receivership. The only reason I tried to sell the bank was that after the illegal leak of the J5 Investigation, the bank began to lose about $250K per month. I was making up those losses personally every month to protect customers. In total I put in about $7 million in 2020 - 2022 when the bank was put into receivership. I have no idea what is happening at Qenta. I am still waiting for answers to my questions.View attachment 8722
I wonder, why you almost beg Mr. Schiff for answers? His bank was in severe trouble in 2021 due to lack of capital. That is what can be extracted from his own plaint. but is presented in an almost hidden way there. As it was a 100% reserve business concept it weren´t the customers who were the problem. It was EPB itself! OCIF pointed on this. Mr. Schiff then did almost everything to get rid of EPB. And found Qenta, which was the former Wirecard! Hard to believe that Mr. Schiff did not know what Wirecard was? The biggest fraud scandal Germany has ever seen! Then comes the OCIF, led by the OCIF commisioner, Ms. Zequeira, and approves the partnership between EPB and Qenta, presented by Mr. Schiff. Also obviously not doing intense background checks. While the customers of EPB are presented a Qenta with a headquarter in Houston, TX. A lie! Actually Qenta is registered in Frankfurt, Germany as a GmbH (see above). And Mr, Brent de Jong is just the CEO, while the owner is Mr. Kerim Chouaibi, who is behind Aurin Investment group. So first and foremost we have Mr. Schiff as the one who steered his own bank in muddy waters, then eagerly wanted to sell it at any cost, which ended up in the worst option he could find, Qenta / Wirecard! And now Mr. Schiff has the audacity to play the victim in all of this? Speaking of ethics and moral! Words are cheap! While at the same end doing absolutley nothing for his former customers! Despicable! A class action lawsuit we should file! To me it is more than evident, who is responsible for all of that and who neglected their duties!
The opt in option was for people who had no other accounts they could send the money to, and to make sure the Puerto Rican government did not take it. Their proposal was that any money that was not withdraw within 90 days would go to the Puerto Rico government. I did not want that to happen.I don’t think Peter is a swindler or a scammer as he is a public person but it seems that he hasn’t been careful enough and by doing so put the opt-in funds at an unacceptable risk. I expect he will do is best to correct this. Stacking mistake on mistake would be foolish as there will be hundreds of opt-in customers going after him anywhere he shows up..
It's the opposite. I only agreed to OCIF's proposal to expedite the return of customer funds. I was told that if I fought the funds would be tied up during that process. I wanted them returned to customers ASAP. The deal with OCIF required all funds to be returned in 30 days. That would have happened but for Novo bank and the Portugese government. Bu they only froze the account due to the conspiracy between the IRS/J5 to frame the bank for money laundering and tax evasion, with the help of the OCIF Commissioner.. The portugese government claimed that it did not want to allow the proceeds of crime to be reintroduced into the legitimate economy. By the time they realized there was no money laundering or tax evasion going on at the bank, which took over eight months, thee bank no longer had the ability to process wires out of Novo bank, and the Receiver wasn't able to figure out how to do it, despite lots of help from Qenta and the former bank staff who worked there. Not sure if it was his gross negligence, or just incompetence as he had no prior banking experience. I had no role. I was completely shut out of the process.In the end @Pschiff only wanted to protect himself and destroyed all clients for that….
If I tell people what’s going on with the liquidation, they think I’m joking….proper nightmare
The recourse is to sue the IRS and OCIF. Had they just allowed Qetna to buy the bank, all funds would have been segregated and safe. The bank would have had over $10 million in capital, no debt, and no loans on the books. There was no legitimate reason to reject the sale. The sole purpose of the rejection was to advance the PR stunt that the bank was guilty of facilitating tax evasion and money laundering, to bolster the credibility of the J5 and for the OCIF Commissioner to win their public support to clean up Puerto Rico's banking reputation. The bank's customers where collateral damage. If customers lose money, it can all be recovered in a class action lawsuit against the government conspirators.DeepSeek analysed Schiff and Qenta´s deal from 30sep 2022 and concludes this;
If Qenta Used the Money for Operations and Is Now in Default, Opt-In Customers Are in Serious Trouble
If Qenta took over Euro Pacific Bank’s assets (customer funds) and used them for normal operations, but is now in default or insolvent, then opt-in customers face significant financial risk with little to no protection. Here’s why:
1. Qenta Took Customer Money Without Any Safeguards
- The agreement does not require Qenta to segregate customer funds from its own operational accounts.
- Qenta could have spent, invested, or lost the funds, leaving no guarantee that opt-in customers can withdraw their money.
2. No Legal Recourse Against Peter Schiff or Euro Pacific Bank
- Schiff and Euro Pacific Bank are 100% released from liability after the transfer.
- If Qenta mismanages or loses customer funds, opt-in customers cannot legally go after Schiff or Euro Pacific Bank for compensation.
3. No Financial Oversight or Protection for Opt-In Customers
- The agreement does not specify which regulator oversees Qenta’s financial stability.
- If Qenta operated recklessly, there is no government safety net (like FDIC or deposit insurance) to cover customer losses.
- No audit was required before the transfer, meaning Qenta could have been financially unstable from the start.
4. No Reserve Requirements or Liquidity Protections
- The agreement does not require Qenta to maintain minimum liquidity levels to ensure customers can withdraw their money.
- If Qenta spent or lost the funds, there may be nothing left to return to opt-in customers.
5. Opt-In Customers Are Likely Just Unsecured Creditors
- Since Qenta owns the assets after transfer, customer deposits are likely treated as general company funds rather than protected client accounts.
- In the event of Qenta’s bankruptcy, opt-in customers would become unsecured creditors, meaning:
- Banks, secured lenders, and preferred creditors get paid first.
- Customers are last in line and may recover nothing.
6. No Dispute Resolution or Clear Path to Recover Funds
- The agreement does not give opt-in customers any legal process to challenge missing funds.
- The arbitration clause only applies between Qenta and Euro Pacific Bank, not between Qenta and customers.
- If Qenta is in default, customers may have no legal mechanism to demand their money back.
7. No Regulatory or Legal Recourse in Puerto Rico
- Because Qenta is registered in Delaware and the UAE, Puerto Rican authorities may not have jurisdiction to enforce customer protections.
- If Qenta collapses, customers may have to pursue legal action in foreign jurisdictions, which is expensive and difficult.
Conclusion: Opt-In Customers Are in Deep Trouble
This was a dangerously structured agreement that left customers completely exposed
- If Qenta used the money for operations and is now in default, opt-in customers may lose everything.
- No legal protection, no regulatory oversight, and no clear way to get their money back.
- Schiff and Euro Pacific Bank are protected, but customers are not.
If the Qenta rumors are true, you have an excellent lawsuit against OCIF and the IRS. They are 100% responsible for this, and their actions were illegal.Just look at this shitty situation we're in. Theoretically we have some money. There's some guy who turned out to be a leech and has no interest in ending it. Somehow, I have no idea how, he's doing well. There is no law. No party able to speed it up and/or take it from lazy guy and give to someone able to show the end. It all seems like a scam, but no one cares. There's no even a simple try to calm down the rumors. After a few years passed and we don't know who's sitting on our money or where it is. No information. No plan. No deadline. Empty promises that eventually died too. Could it get any worse? The Quenta speculations will turn out to be real and we're all screwed. I was sure it would be like this. A simple game of ping-pong. The whole story from the beginning looked like a bigger plan to me.
You need to remember that according to the deal all OPt in funds were to transfer immediately to segragated individual accounts of customers. But since Novo held up the money, the funds that Qetna ended up getting were held by Qetna until all funds where recovered, so that Opt in customers were not put above Opt Outs. They wanted to treat everyone equally. So it was never the plan that customer funds be commingled with Qenta funds. This was all the fault of the IRS/J5 media campaign to falsely take credit for closing the bank for money laundering and tax evasion.and your high-profile team did not wonder that Qenta was licenced NOWHERE on the planet?
I seriously doubt audited financials exist