Alternative to blackcatcard

[Sean Restling]

I personally haven't tried yet, but did they not mention they would replace the MT IBAN for something more.. European like BE FR etc.. I seem to still have the Malta IBAN.

 

[bubbledouble]

very bad situation you are into there. I hope you soon get it all sorted out.

 

[russelw65]

I personally haven't tried yet, but did they not mention they would replace the MT IBAN for something more.. European like BE FR etc.. I seem to still have the Malta IBAN.

The Malta IBAN apparently does not work anymore. Have you tried sending small amount to test?

 

[JohnnyDoe]

The Malta IBAN apparently does not work anymore. Have you tried sending small amount to test?

It doesn’t work, don’t test it.

 

[bubbledouble]

It's not very difficult if you have a visa/mastercard that uses crypto on the back end. Then you can live a normal life in most countries. I know quite a few people in the UAE who live like this.

What cards would you suggest that are backed with crypto and can work out for a live without banking?

 

[Cloudbanck]

Bitrefill's card: https://www.bitrefill.com/card/?hl=en
Xapo https://www.xapobank.com/en
ByBit Mastercard https://www.bybit.com/cards
Binance Visa https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/240183
Gemini Mastercard https://www.gemini.com/credit-card
Nexo https://nexo.com/crypto-card
Crypto.com Visa https://crypto.com/cards
Moon Card https://paywithmoon.com/
And actually with a Revolut card, if you have no fiat and just crypto, it will use the crypto for payments

And many of these are restricted to residents in only some parts of the world (Gemini is just US for example), but in this forum we all know how to get around such restrictions.

Among these I have only tried Xapo, Crypto.com and Revolut. All ok, but Xapo's increase in fees is annoying, and Crypto.com is so shitcoin focused. Id actually recommend Bitrefill even if I havent tried it yet, as Bitrefill has a great team behind it and Im impressed with their other services.

 

[russelw65]

Bitrefill's card: https://www.bitrefill.com/card/?hl=en
Xapo https://www.xapobank.com/en
ByBit Mastercard https://www.bybit.com/cards
Binance Visa https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/240183
Gemini Mastercard https://www.gemini.com/credit-card
Nexo https://nexo.com/crypto-card
Crypto.com Visa https://crypto.com/cards
Moon Card https://paywithmoon.com/
And actually with a Revolut card, if you have no fiat and just crypto, it will use the crypto for payments

And many of these are restricted to residents in only some parts of the world (Gemini is just US for example), but in this forum we all know how to get around such restrictions.

Among these I have only tried Xapo, Crypto.com and Revolut. All ok, but Xapo's increase in fees is annoying, and Crypto.com is so shitcoin focused. Id actually recommend Bitrefill even if I havent tried it yet, as Bitrefill has a great team behind it and Im impressed with their other services.

Thanks. Great list. Do any of these have IBAN also?

 

[Cloudbanck]

Most of them yes, but typically you can only send and receive to an account in your own name. Exceptions are Xapo and Revolut that are proper banks and you can send and receive to/from whoever you like.

 

[russelw65]

Most of them yes, but typically you can only send and receive to an account in your own name. Exceptions are Xapo and Revolut that are proper banks and you can send and receive to/from whoever you like.

Thank you for the ideas.

Some of these do not do UK.

I need UK use, an IBAN, EU resident and a card.

 

[Cloudbanck]

All of the above can be used in the UK, and all over the world where Visa/Mastercard are accepted.

If you mean that you need a UK IBAN then Revolut offers UK IBANs. And Wirex (not previously mentioned) too: https://wirexapp.com/card

Then you have CoinCorner based on Isle of Man, that offer UK IBANs and the Bolt card which is lightning-network based and really cool, but it's not Visa or Mastercard so much more limited use. https://www.coincorner.com/theboltcard

 

[bubbledouble]

Bitrefill's card: https://www.bitrefill.com/card/?hl=en
Xapo https://www.xapobank.com/en
ByBit Mastercard https://www.bybit.com/cards
Binance Visa https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/240183
Gemini Mastercard https://www.gemini.com/credit-card
Nexo https://nexo.com/crypto-card
Crypto.com Visa https://crypto.com/cards
Moon Card https://paywithmoon.com/
And actually with a Revolut card, if you have no fiat and just crypto, it will use the crypto for payments

And many of these are restricted to residents in only some parts of the world (Gemini is just US for example), but in this forum we all know how to get around such restrictions.

Among these I have only tried Xapo, Crypto.com and Revolut. All ok, but Xapo's increase in fees is annoying, and Crypto.com is so shitcoin focused. Id actually recommend Bitrefill even if I havent tried it yet, as Bitrefill has a great team behind it and Im impressed with their other services.

Wonderful list, thanks for sharing your opinion and the list.

 

[russelw65]

All of the above can be used in the UK, and all over the world where Visa/Mastercard are accepted.

If you mean that you need a UK IBAN then Revolut offers UK IBANs. And Wirex (not previously mentioned) too: https://wirexapp.com/card

Then you have CoinCorner based on Isle of Man, that offer UK IBANs and the Bolt card which is lightning-network based and really cool, but it's not Visa or Mastercard so much more limited use. https://www.coincorner.com/theboltcard

Thanks.

Revolut I avoid as too much compliance hassle. They need documentation to buy a coffee