SOF for real estate purchasing

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To what extent buying real estate in Europe (European Union) is liable to produce a request for SOF? If so, when the request would come (before/after) purchase and from whom (bank/police/other government agency)? What would that entail? Proving that money comes from a legitimate source or also proving that taxes have been paid on it? Countries known to be stricter on this?

Asking for a friend.
 
It depends a bit on the country. In some countries, you pay to the notary while in others you pay to the seller. Of course you own bank will ask for the source of funds. But also the notary may ask a question in case the whole story sounds fishy. Also note that many agents will ask for a proof of funds when making an offer. You may have to show something there.

And then depending on the country, you will have to file a tax return. If your wealth was 50k and suddenly includes a 5m mansion, they will ask questions.
 
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well they are not as chill as the country your username is in, roughly speaking. But the easiest countries are those which best fit your circumstances.
 
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Depends on the country, Price of the property and the regulation -AML. But if you need instant advice - Open or Buy company which has good Credit reputation and big amount of Written Capital in it. This is hint to buy property with low risk. If you need more advices, ask here more, we can help you with
 
I know 4 countries just straight out of my head, where you can bring a suitcase with cash to pay for the property and nobody blinks an eye (even today! Actually they'll ask you to do so, as it's the local custom, withdraw from bank or take out of your safe, and pay the seller in cash, witnessed by the real estate agent).

In developing countries the agent additionally took a few photos of handing the cash to the seller, and everyone fingerprinted the documents (when I did it few years back).

It's not that uncommon at all, one of those is even a G7 country.

Sometimes I think that I am living in a parallel world (thankfully, still free in an unfree world).
 
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Yes. But the question here is about the EU. Of course, he can buy one in cash on Georgia, sell it and then has SOF for us EU purchase. But there are easier ways than that.
 
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You are right, I missed the point. Sorry.

Well, would the NFT solution work? Or becoming a famous painter, like Hunter Biden?
Of course. Just go play guitar in the subway and video tape how people throw in their worthless 500 EUR bills in stacks. I am pretty sure this story checks out legit enough as SOF.

You may as well claim he got the money from sitting around an stack of USD for a week with Mr. Beast.

Good luck!
 
Some countries, like Greece, are smart enough to first take the money and then ask for a reason why they should not confiscate your property and put you in prison.
Remember, in the EUSSR you are guilty until proven otherwise.
This remind me of business practice by many services where you have to pay first and then they will evaluate your business.

Also like the state mafia if you have a conflict with your taxes, you have to pay first and then they will decide in your favor or against.
 
Do you mind telling us which countries?
 
My experience:
France: the notary asked for it "lightly" then she asked for more details just after wiring the money as the French authorities asked to make "an audit" when they saw the incoming transaction landing on the notary's bank account. A "certificate" of my accountant explaining my business, dividends etc. was sufficient.
UK: everyone in the value chain checks the SOF: agent, lawyer, seller. They typically have an app that everyone is using. Very thorough, questionnaire, whether crypto is involved etc. You are recommended to hire a very expensive lawyer if your situation is "complex" and the seller can always refuse.
 
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very good advise you should consider and listen to.
 
Spain: Lawyer, bank, property developer (usually their internal compliance)
everything is done through your lawyer. if you have a good lawyer you can avoid local banks which means less headaches.

Andorra: Prepare for pain. Also have a good lawyer who can ease the pain. Everyone needs your SoF (lawyer, banks, notary, government) - full story, tax returns, payslips, police records from passport country + country of residence if different. Banks are bs, you basically need a bank to pay your property bills monthly and they'll force you for to lock up a 100k-500k deposit, and you will have no choice because you have only 3 options (Andbank, Creand, Morabanc). Worst banks with total idiots working there. But if you manage to get in - enjoy the 10% taxes and ski slopes.

Latvia, Estonia: Notary. Can use crypto to buy sell properties. Depends on your passport, generally payslips/dividend/general crypto SoF docs are fine.

Portugal: Notary, lawyer. Can use fixers who take your crypto, provide you with SoF and manage the whole deal for 3-5% fee.

You need a good bank initially (with SEPA) where your statement looks clean and tidy. Then your payslip/dividends/crypto docs. And in most cases you just wire directly to a local lawyer or the notary's deposit account (avoid the "you need to wire from a local bank" scam or change the lawyer). It's best if your bank matches your residence country.
 
Thank you so much for that, you saved me so much time and hassle. I actually planned to retire there one day.

Quite sad to take it off my list of peaceful places outside the EUSSR, it sounds even worse.
 
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Thank you so much for that, you saved me so much time and hassle. I actually planned to retire there one day.

Quite sad to take it off my list of peaceful places outside the EUSSR, it sounds even worse.
Well it's still valid but to get in you have to have bulletproof history. Or create one if you don't have while it's still possible.
 
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