skip tracing info

[Jade33]

Let's say I want to find someone who is very "discreet online", are there programs to install or do only official people have access to this information.
Hire a PI?
Maybe some onion site?
ps I am not a hitman

 

[LFGC]

Better chance of winning the lottery, you're likely owed money, forget about the debt and move on you won't collect a penny, regardless of whatever any lawyer, debt collector, or other person attempting to swindle you for money is telling you...

 

[aniglo22]

OSINT : OSINT Framework GitHub - jivoi/awesome-osint: :scream: A curated list of amazingly awesome OSINT , Data-breach search services such as : Leak-Lookup | Database Search Engine or any other .
You can check exif data in images etc..
It's hard to give any concrete advice without getting any concrete information .
And also if the guy is not dumb and maintains some opsec , your chances are really low .

 

[diatessaron]

Let's say I want to find someone who is very "discreet online", are there programs to install or do only official people have access to this information.
Hire a PI?
Maybe some onion site?
ps I am not a hitman

If they actively maintain their online privacy it will be impossible. You can use all the tools in the world but they can't find someone who's pretending to be someone else, or multiple someone elses.

 

[Jade33]

He has a linkedin profile he uses actively and is listed as company owner in some online documents. I have no valid emails nor phone numbers anymore.
I know he keeps his name out of google search, things I could find ago have disappeared and I am a great sherlock

 

[LFGC]

What are you tryin to do? Find out where he lives? Find out if he has money? Or are you just randomly stalking him? Seems like you're owed money, if so, why is any of this relevant? File a lawsuit and let the court serve him, your likelihood of collecting is very low if non-existent.

 

[aniglo22]

He has a linkedin profile he uses actively and is listed as company owner in some online documents. I have no valid emails nor phone numbers anymore.
I know he keeps his name out of google search, things I could find ago have disappeared and I am a great sherlock

Did you try using the wayback machine or other archive websites?

 

[jafo]

He has a linkedin profile he uses actively and is listed as company owner in some online documents. I have no valid emails nor phone numbers anymore.
I know he keeps his name out of google search, things I could find ago have disappeared and I am a great sherlock

How "bad" do you want to get him?

If it is really bad, hire a nice-looking, destitute girl and create and manage her LinkedIn and IG accounts. "Copy" his same interests (obviously, if he likes prostate exams, she can't copy that). Befriend the girls on his LinkedIn contacts first, then the guys who are friends with those girls. Work the six-degree-of-separation labyrinth. Remove a layer or two. Picometer your way in. Set the bait—most guys WILL bite!

True story on how NOT to do it: The feds had this gorgeous blonde Colombian fitness girl sit right next to me in first class on the flight from NYC to Japan. It was TOO obvious! They were too desperate. Also, prior to that, I had NEVER EVER had any girl sit next to me on ANY flight...unless I booked the tickets myself. Moreover, after that incident with the feds, I never ever had ANY girl sit next to me on any flight...of course, unless I booked us. The feds should have picometered their way in. First, figure out my workout routine and schedule. Have her be at the gym BEFORE I arrive to work on the same body part. Drink the same drink. Buy the same Kybun sneakers. Drive the same car but in a feminine color. Quick work in, request a spot (she had to go heavy), chit-chat, banter, and have her ride into the sunset! Rinse and repeat a few times more with the occasional out-of-sync plan.
Figure out my travel schedule. Find the events I go to. Have her sign up and be at the events before me. Picometer their way in. They are too impulsive! Too desperate! They have no impulse control. Their limbic system is damaged. Too many donuts. This is the LONGGGGGGGG game.

An old guard and mentor of the ghost game once told me: You can NEVER EVER arrive where the target is. The target has to arrive where you are!

You know what to do...like Nike says: Just do it!

 

[JackAlabama]

Better chance of winning the lottery, you're likely owed money, forget about the debt and move on you won't collect a penny, regardless of whatever any lawyer, debt collector, or other person attempting to swindle you for money is telling you...

this is it, especially if you have been close to the person (and he has a uninteresting profile himself as well) and did not have proper contracts. Not a penny can and will be collected in such an instance even if youd involve the army.
Especially if the amount has been "low-ish" like low 6 digits, no one will care really.
Imagine even if you take him down, what will it do? You can bet he will most likely squandered everything already and after some revenge victory feelings, youre still exactly at the same spot as now.

Best is to forget and move on. Money is energy and a flowing thing like water, it comes and goes, don't try to squeeze it in your hand but open your wings and it will come back 10fold.

What are you tryin to do? Find out where he lives? Find out if he has money? Or are you just randomly stalking him? Seems like you're owed money, if so, why is any of this relevant? File a lawsuit and let the court serve him, your likelihood of collecting is very low if non-existent.

this is not easy unless good documents exist and most likely will be dismissed at the end (but he will spend a lot of money and time for basically nothing).

 

[ImKing]

that's a post for @gh0p and @mraleph they both are very competent into computer science.

How "bad" do you want to get him?

If it is really bad, hire a nice-looking, destitute girl and create and manage her LinkedIn and IG accounts. "Copy" his same interests (obviously, if he likes prostate exams, she can't copy that). Befriend the girls on his LinkedIn contacts first, then the guys who are friends with those girls. Work the six-degree-of-separation labyrinth. Remove a layer or two. Picometer your way in. Set the bait—most guys WILL bite!

True story on how NOT to do it: The feds had this gorgeous blonde Colombian fitness girl sit right next to me in first class on the flight from NYC to Japan. It was TOO obvious! They were too desperate. Also, prior to that, I had NEVER EVER had any girl sit next to me on ANY flight...unless I booked the tickets myself. Moreover, after that incident with the feds, I never ever had ANY girl sit next to me on any flight...of course, unless I booked us. The feds should have picometered their way in. First, figure out my workout routine and schedule. Have her be at the gym BEFORE I arrive to work on the same body part. Drink the same drink. Buy the same Kybun sneakers. Drive the same car but in a feminine color. Quick work in, request a spot (she had to go heavy), chit-chat, banter, and have her ride into the sunset! Rinse and repeat a few times more with the occasional out-of-sync plan.
Figure out my travel schedule. Find the events I go to. Have her sign up and be at the events before me. Picometer their way in. They are too impulsive! Too desperate! They have no impulse control. Their limbic system is damaged. Too many donuts. This is the LONGGGGGGGG game.

An old guard and mentor of the ghost game once told me: You can NEVER EVER arrive where the target is. The target has to arrive where you are!

You know what to do...like Nike says: Just do it!

I'm really impressed with a lot of your posts, @jafo. You must either work with this stuff often or have a real passion for it.

 

[Jade33]

my case involves parental alienation with a narcissist. He wants to be in control about decisions and financial to suit his own need.
He completely went silent. I am a kind person but I am the only one fighting for my child.
He lives in Monaco, I recently went there but the concierge said they never heard of this man living there (maybe they lied). I went to all his know properties.
The best counter attack is to show him I CAN find him and he cannot hide or ignore the situation but unless I camp out in front of the building for a lookout I am hitting dead end....
Dreading to take it to court.

 

[daniels27]

my case involves parental alienation with a narcissist. He wants to be in control about decisions and financial to suit his own need.
He completely went silent. I am a kind person but I am the only one fighting for my child.
He lives in Monaco, I recently went there but the concierge said they never heard of this man living there (maybe they lied). I went to all his know properties.
The best counter attack is to show him I CAN find him and he cannot hide or ignore the situation but unless I camp out in front of the building for a lookout I am hitting dead end....
Dreading to take it to court.

I once got a call from a sombody in jail. Crazy. But the issue was that the person in jail was threatened that they will reveal some secrets to me and then it escalated quickly. My answer: Ok, but how do they want to find me?

I am now unsure whether the child is with you or with him. But in both cases, the way in (or out) would be your child. That's probably the best leverage you have.

If the child is with him, do you know that finding a child is much easier than an adult? Kids go to school, play with others and the government normally has at least some idea about their whereabouts. Adults are like money: they are just much harder to find if they move every three days.

If the child is with you, use them as leverage to lure him to reveal his location. Let your kid contact him and see what happens. Which father would not want to see some nice photo of his kid. WhatsApp on Windows has some vulnerabilities, email is good to send malware etc.

 

[JackAlabama]

my case involves parental alienation with a narcissist. He wants to be in control about decisions and financial to suit his own need.
He completely went silent. I am a kind person but I am the only one fighting for my child.
He lives in Monaco, I recently went there but the concierge said they never heard of this man living there (maybe they lied). I went to all his know properties.
The best counter attack is to show him I CAN find him and he cannot hide or ignore the situation but unless I camp out in front of the building for a lookout I am hitting dead end....
Dreading to take it to court.

your kid wont be helped at all if you dedicate all your resources going after someone who already abandoned you and doesn't have any interest in your affairs. Even if you manage to find him, it doesn't matter at all it only serves as additional laughter.
First error has already been made to chose your mate badly (I don't blame you, the bling bling is very seductive), but for the sake of your kid don't make another mistake and engage in revenge.

I know it hurts (have it seen in my very own family) but its better to let this go. Better you get some social benefits than chasing after and help your kid growing up.

 

[aniglo22]

You could buy an older LinkedIn account with some history , then pimp it up with some followers and likes on posts and also buy an company profile which is also older . Than change everything so it matches the relevant field/activity your person engages in . And then you could try some social engineering to orchestrate a business meeting .

He has a linkedin profile he uses actively and is listed as company owner in some online documents. I have no valid emails nor phone numbers anymore.
I know he keeps his name out of google search, things I could find ago have disappeared and I am a great sherlock

 

[daniels27]

You could buy an older LinkedIn account with some history , then pimp it up with some followers and likes on posts and also buy an company profile which is also older . Than change everything so it matches the relevant field/activity your person engages in . And then you could try some social engineering to orchestrate a business meeting .

I have one that I am about to delete. If this is of any help, let me know. (I am not selling it, I can help you free of charge if this helps.)

 

[bubbledouble]

my case involves parental alienation with a narcissist. He wants to be in control about decisions and financial to suit his own need.
He completely went silent. I am a kind person but I am the only one fighting for my child.
He lives in Monaco, I recently went there but the concierge said they never heard of this man living there (maybe they lied). I went to all his know properties.
The best counter attack is to show him I CAN find him and he cannot hide or ignore the situation but unless I camp out in front of the building for a lookout I am hitting dead end....
Dreading to take it to court.

You are a woman and this guy is your husband I assume? and the child is with him or with you? Finding people in Monaco isn't that hard if you hire a private investigator.

 

[jafo]

Finding people in Monaco isn't that hard

This! It's actually TOO easy, to be honest!

maybe they lied

100% they lied!

I live in Monaco (part-time now due to business, but I started in the late 90s). Nobody in Monaco is going to admit to you that I live there, and neither would I about anyone else living there!

 

[mraleph]

my case involves parental alienation with a narcissist. He wants to be in control about decisions and financial to suit his own need.
He completely went silent. I am a kind person but I am the only one fighting for my child.
He lives in Monaco, I recently went there but the concierge said they never heard of this man living there (maybe they lied). I went to all his know properties.
The best counter attack is to show him I CAN find him and he cannot hide or ignore the situation but unless I camp out in front of the building for a lookout I am hitting dead end....
Dreading to take it to court.

From your transparent material I may conclude that you were a spouse of a malignant narcissist who deprived you as a mother of your child - parental allineation.

But, I've read your content at

Post in thread 'Best asset protections options in 2024?'
Best asset protections options in 2024?

where you specify your situation. Apparently, you're Belgian with a child having an autistic spectrum disorder and a father of that child is from Monaco.

Is your child effectively kidnaped - your posts aren't clear?

That may constitute a family violence and kidnaping of a minor, beside other potential felonies.

You are only fighting for you child or You are the only one fighting for your child?

How did you know where to go in Monaco?

Let's say I want to find someone who is very "discreet online", are there programs to install or do only official people have access to this information.
Hire a PI?
Maybe some onion site?
ps I am not a hitman

He has a linkedin profile he uses actively and is listed as company owner in some online documents. I have no valid emails nor phone numbers anymore.
I know he keeps his name out of google search, things I could find ago have disappeared and I am a great sherlock

You want to find the person - to what extent? Locating - digitally or physicaly, for litigation, serving a motion or decision? To take the child?

What do you expect - a toolset, tradecraft or an assistance?

 

[Jade33]

Thank you all for your respectful input, I appreciate it.
There is no kidnapping, the child is with me. And yes even though I chose the wrong partner it wasn't like this in the beginning.
Narcissists happily discard whatever doesn't serve them.
I had all the means to contact him, numbers, emails and financial aid for our child.
Now I have no way to contact him, even on linkedin he ignores me.
This year he decided to cut the financial by 2/3!! All he wants is to keep the upperhand while I am left doing all the parenting full time.
You can understand why I have been searching for him.
I know where he lives because it's on the financial statements.
If I take it to court it could get ugly and expensive but what choice do I have? that or walk away....

This! It's actually TOO easy, to be honest!


100% they lied!

I live in Monaco (part-time now due to business, but I started in the late 90s). Nobody in Monaco is going to admit to you that I live there, and neither would I about anyone else living there!

I get that they are very private over there but I have it on an official statement. I traveled there and left empty handed and sore feet haha. Although I enjoyed the beach for the afternoon.

 

[mraleph]

Thank you all for your respectful input, I appreciate it.
There is no kidnapping, the child is with me. And yes even though I chose the wrong partner it wasn't like this in the beginning.
Narcissists happily discard whatever doesn't serve them.
I had all the means to contact him, numbers, emails and financial aid for our child.
Now I have no way to contact him, even on linkedin he ignores me.
This year he decided to cut the financial by 2/3!! All he wants is to keep the upperhand while I am left doing all the parenting full time.
You can understand why I have been searching for him.
I know where he lives because it's on the financial statements.
If I take it to court it could get ugly and expensive but what choice do I have? that or walk away....

You need an attorney that will probably propose a legal action as these are family affairs and not a person's location matter.

What will be considered as appropriate allimentation for your child and potentialy you is a matter to be discussed at a court of law or an arbitration.

Further comments in this thread are without need as they will be intrusive and indiscreet.

Good luck with every choice you make.