Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

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Putin is cleaning house. Deviation from the party line will not be tolerated. In totalitarian Russia, even oligarch status does not ensure your safety. In Russia, do not worry about your assets. Worry about your life.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=2285d0dbc95c4631b61af41fb5a95412
But do not worry. The Russian police and Russian justice system are "investigating."

 
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The Russians Lost Nearly An Entire Battalion Trying To Cross A River In Eastern Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=e61225b30ead4024ab3e6881586f05ec
 

The Russians Lost Nearly An Entire Battalion Trying To Cross A River In Eastern Ukraine.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=e61225b30ead4024ab3e6881586f05ec
This may or may not be true. An MSN article about it proves zero. The fact I've just read a thread by a soldier purporting to be the brains behind the attack, makes me think it could well be another piece of famous Ukrainian propaganda that we can file under bulls**t.

Can you post about Snake Island? I hear the British planned that mission and it went sour pretty quickly. That one is easy to corroborate.
 
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This information from MSN is only part true. i brefly searched information in Ukrainian and Russian TG channels. My verdict: Ukrainian forces managed to destroy pontoon bridge, but there is no information about 50 vehicles and 1000 troops. As proof I've seen only a few screenshots with 5-10 vehicles.

As for Snake island, for now nobody knows exactly what happened there, and for what reason Ukraine attempted to take the island.
Both sides confirm some loses, but the thing is - the island is still under control of Russia. Information about British planning seems to be true, because even in ukrainian channels they mention about it, moreover, i've seen info that ukrainian command was against this mission, but president forced to execute it.
Actually there was no reason to do it, except one - Zelenskiy wanted to show some victory on 9 may (this is very special day for russians)
Ordinary people in comments say in fact this mission was almost suicidal. This island is very tiny. it's like 500x600 meters (0.3 miles х 0.35 miles) literally, and
even if they could capture it and setup some anti aircraft artillery it would be destroyed next day from ships or just bombed by FAB bombs.
 
The island is located in a strategic location. The Ukrainian bombing mission was only designed to destroy all the buildings on the island -- to make them unusable to the Russians. That mission was a success, as demonstrated by the before and after photographs.

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On another front, Russia is rapidly running out of critical parts manufactured in the West. Russia is now resorting to putting computer chips from dishwashers and refrigerators in tanks due to US sanctions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=d342df36900d45ef895067e0b8224f3b
 
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Sounds like an excuse, after a failed mission. Let's use our critical thinking.
The location is strategic, but it matters when you have ships to use it strategically.
You said the mission was to destroy buildings. Ok. have you seen those buildings? Do you really think it was worth wasting aircraft and pilots to destroy those sheds?
Let's look at the photo:

The main building is the lighthouse, 6 little storages near docks, just one building looking like barracks (no more than for 100 hundred people, rather much less), and 3 additional buildings (little buildings).
What is the point to bomb it? It's cheap and very easily fixable and it's hard to destroy it completely. Actually i have not seen footage where those buildings were showed as completly destroyed (just damaged but usable). That is strange if Mi6 and CIA provide intel for Ukraine from satellites. If you have it i would appreciate it.
Moreover, even if those buildings were absolutely ruined, Russia would set up a module camp just like if the island was empty. The army of Russia is not terrorists from isis or insurgents from middle Asia who don't have sources to build infrastructure. Look at this АПЛ-500 (Autonomous field camp 500). Number 500 means that its camp can be used by 500 soldiers. it's 5-10 times more than normal garrison for this island. So i think APL 500 even too much for this little island. It would be enough to use something more simple and cheap.


Now lets think further. BBC says (as well as Ukrainian TG channels) that Ukraine lost 3 pilots on 9 may, one of them - Igor Bedzay, he was Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy Aviation (Ukraine claims him as one of the best pilot.
When we read "lost" it means aircraft is also lost. And when we understand that aircraft is lost it means that everybody on board are dead (or captured), and forces on land (or sea) were left without air support or evacuation. Now think about consequences for troops without air support. So now we have a big question - was these loses worth to damadge a few old cheap buildings?
p.s Don't forget that every Ukrainian pilot is Irreplaceable loss. Ukraine can't train new pilots, NATO will not allow western pilots to participate in war (even if the could pilot soviet aircrafts).
p.p.s All this information above from western sources. And even from western sources looks pretty bad for Ukraine. I've seen information from Russian Ministry of Defense, it's more detailed, but i didn't provide it to you because you would not believe.
 
Sounds like an excuse, after a failed mission. Let's use our critical thinking.
The location is strategic, but it matters when you have ships to use it strategically.
You said the mission was to destroy buildings. Ok. have you seen those buildings?
No, I have not seen the buildings -- for a very simple reason. Those buildings no longer exist. The Ukraine air force bombed them out of existence. You will not find the truth on Russian propaganda sites.

You also lack an elemental understanding of military strategy and geopolitical thinking. There are many reasons to bomb a military target. Here is a clue: the Doolittle Raid on Toyyo during WWII. The U.S. knew that it would have a 100% loss of aircraft and a loss of most flight crews. Yet, the military went ahead with the plan and all the flight crews volunteered. Most of them ditched their aircraft in the ocean after bombing Japan.

Although the raid caused comparatively minor damage, it demonstrated that the Japanese mainland was vulnerable to American air attacks. It also served as retaliation for the 7 December 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, and provided an important boost to American morale.



https://twitter.com/x/status/1523031819133857793
 
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No, I have not seen the buildings -- for a very simple reason. Those buildings no longer exist. The Ukraine air force bombed them out of existence. You will not find the truth on Russian propaganda sites.
Well i think it's always possible to find the truth if you can analyse different sources, compare and think logically. For instance i read 3 type of sources (Western in English, Ukrainian and Russian).

Thank you for the information.
So two storages near docks are destroyed, lighthouse and 3 buildings are destroyed. 3 storgaes near docks still exist. Barracks (or something like this) still in place, 2 buildings in the center still exist.

I still have the same question
were these losses worth it?

Yep because of "lack of an elemental understanding of military strategy" I really don't understand how Ukrainian morale can be boosted by death of Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy Aviation
 
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Ex-separatist commander says Russian military chief 'criminally negligent'​

A former commander of pro-Russian forces in eastern Ukraine accused Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu on Friday of "criminal negligence" over Moscow's stuttering military campaign in Ukraine.

"I directly accuse Sergei Shoigu of, at minimum, criminal negligence," Igor Girkin said in a video interview posted on his Telegram channel. "I have no grounds to accuse him of treason, but I would suspect it."

https://www.reuters.com/world/ex-se...litary-chief-criminally-negligent-2022-05-13/
 
A well-published professor is discussing the potential breakup of the Russian Federation as a distinct possibility. What if the Russian Federation is following in the Soviet Union’s footsteps and is on the verge of collapse? What if, once again, the process is driven by internal factors and there’s nothing anyone can do about it? Putin has miscalculated horribly -- and Russia will pay the price.
This professor and author is no intellectual lightweight:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...sedgntp&cvid=907a5f84ef99420ebb34571c48fee8f8
 
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countries are overreacting
More likely they are underreacting. Everyone who lives in Eastern Europe knows the history of Russian aggression and the attempted destruction of local cultures and languages.

Putin has accomplished what President Trump and all former U.S. Presidents could never do -- forcing European countries to increase their military budgets to pay their fair share of NATO expenses.
 
Ukrainian troops stand at the Ukraine-Russia border in what was said to be the Kharkiv region. Are they going to launch a special operation in Russia now?
A "Special Mission to Moscow" has a good ring to it. Or the Righteous Pursuit of the n**i Vladimir Putin.

A "Special Mission to Moscow" has a good ring to it. Or the Righteous Pursuit of the n**i Vladimir Putin.
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Meanwhile, Russian officers are reportedly shooting their own wounded:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-ukraine-war-crimes-putin/2022/05/16/id/1070101/
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If true, this is absolutely astounding -- losing this much military hardware in just 82 days of fighting:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ukraine-russia-war-transcarpathian-legion/2022/05/16/id/1070114/
 
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