Question Protecting Your Site from DMCA & Powerless Scenarios?

[belarus]

So, I've been scrolling through a bunch of threads, right? Some about OCT and some where folks are asking about offshore hosting companies that just shrug off DMCA notices and stuff like that. Got me thinking about where we stand with our own website and how I can really keep it safe.

Alright, from what I've gathered, there are these hosts (below list) that apparently rank top-notch globally for dodging troubles with the law and DMCA headaches.

• Incognet
• Shinjiru
• TerraHost
• Trabia
• AlbaHot

But, hosting's just one piece of the puzzle, isn't it? You also gotta dodge Cloudflare. They're like handing out IP addresses and hosting details like candy, even to any Joe Blow who throws a fit and files a dispute. Talk about dropping the ball on keeping your hosting and IP on the down-low.

 

[Costas]

Sorry to disappoint you, but finding the real IP address of a server behind Cloudflare usually costs a few dozen bucks.

 

[CryptoKnight]

Sorry to disappoint you, but finding the real IP address of a server behind Cloudflare usually costs a few dozen bucks.

Oh? Wanna elaborate on that?

 

[Costas]

Oh? Wanna elaborate on that?

Hosting isn’t about providers—it’s about datacenters. Just get the paperwork sorted. For any content you’re serving, have contracts ready—real or fake, whatever keeps things clean on paper. That’s your first line of defense against DMCA takedowns. You can’t hide servers forever; eventually, you’ll need to relocate. If you don’t get how the internet actually works, no provider or datacenter is gonna save your setup.

 

[CryptoKnight]

Hosting isn’t about providers—it’s about datacenters. Just get the paperwork sorted. For any content you’re serving, have contracts ready—real or fake, whatever keeps things clean on paper. That’s your first line of defense against DMCA takedowns. You can’t hide servers forever; eventually, you’ll need to relocate. If you don’t get how the internet actually works, no provider or datacenter is gonna save your setup.

I was talking specifically about "finding the real IP address of a server behind Cloudflare usually costs a few dozen bucks." How is this possible?

 

[Costas]

I was talking specifically about "finding the real IP address of a server behind Cloudflare usually costs a few dozen bucks." How is this possible?

Ask ChatGPT—there are a few methods he can explain way better than I can. On a dark market, it’s a standard service that runs smoothly and doesn’t cost a fortune.

Maybe if it were a brand new, pure IPv6 server, it’d be tougher—but most people mess things up and leave holes everywhere.

 

[vn00b]

Cloudflare might be a proxy of sorts, but they never advertised themselves as these privacy-guards that some people think of. Even if a government agency requires them to spit out your server data/account data, they'll do it without blinking eyes.

How they work is, most choose free plans, but those who buy the premium ones benefit from the huge pool of the free ones. And let's be honest, the free plans themselves are great - but not like a unbreakable shield for someone to get to your servers IPs, etc.

 

[Costas]

Well said. I'd just like to add — if your hosting bill isn’t at least a few hundred bucks a month, don’t believe any “DMCA-safe haven” claims. The moment there’s pressure, your content is gone.

 

[vn00b]

Well said. I'd just like to add — if your hosting bill isn’t at least a few hundred bucks a month, don’t believe any “DMCA-safe haven” claims. The moment there’s pressure, your content is gone.

I agree. I started on my web journey thinking that shared cPanel webhosts are my solution, but yeah. A kid is a kid, but if a kid doesn't learn... well, no place for such people in this world lol.

Although, there are always ways, you know? BTW, just got here for totally other reason and forum redirected me here to present myself... but got into reading this. Either way, coming from a country where DMCA is laughed at, and being very active back in the days on warez forums, heh, when Rapidshare was a thing... lol... I did lots of investigating in how the world works when... DMCA red flags are in question.

I'm just not sure what DMCA content are we talking about, because hosting full movies from high-profitable Hollywood studios on a popular light-web site is one thing, hosting nulled scripts is another, selling that illegally is completely other...

Actually from my perspective, getting your content down is like... whatever man, for operations that are profitable and popular, they must also have other backup plans that'll popup straight away and continue with same operation. The problem is when that DMCA gets knocking on your door, and you and your crew - worst case scenario, end up behind the bars...

 

[Costas]

The problem is when that DMCA gets knocking on your door, and you and your crew - worst case scenario, end up behind the bars...

I've been selling adult movies — the legal, licensed kind — for more than half my life. Most of the DMCA takedown requests I receive (and send, for that matter) are total nonsense. They're automated, sent by bots, and have no connection to reality.

 

[vn00b]

I've been selling adult movies — the legal, licensed kind — for more than half my life. Most of the DMCA takedown requests I receive (and send, for that matter) are total nonsense. They're automated, sent by bots, and have no connection to reality.

Probably some script-kiddies trying to get rich from same method as that person sending fake invoices to Meta, Google, etc - if that's even real lol.

But yeah, I know what you mean. If you're selling legal stuff, you're safe from the DMCA dragons ))