Notary and apostille for foreign-owned US LLC

[somerandomuser]

I've signed up with Verifo and as part of their KYC process they are now asking me to provide with a notarised membership certificate for my Wyoming US LLC along with an apostille issued in the state of incorporation.
Did anyone have experience getting their docs certified in WY USA from abroad? What is the process and approximate cost / timeline? Can this be done remotely? I'm based in the UAE. Trying to figure out if it's worth it, or should I just move on.

Thanks!

 

[daniels27]

I recently was discussing same with @disagree, while I have not yet found the cheapest solution, maybe you want to help try out.

You could check with this one:
https://www.fiverr.com/cburgess82/provide-full-apostille-services-for-all-us-states

I also sent you a PM with a dozen of notaries, if you have time, please ask them for a quote and let us know. I am not posting their email addresses here to protect their privacy and as it is not confirmed if they offer such services.

 

[Sols]

I've signed up with Verifo and as part of their KYC process they are now asking me to provide with a notarised membership certificate for my Wyoming US LLC along with an apostille issued in the state of incorporation.
Did anyone have experience getting their docs certified in WY USA from abroad? What is the process and approximate cost / timeline? Can this be done remotely?

Have you asked your registered agent? Many registered agents are able to provide apostille documents. Usually costs a few hundred. You can usually get a scan pretty quickly and then the originals by post or courier however long it takes to go from Wyoming to UAE.

I'm based in the UAE.

However, based on this, I don't think your chances of success are very high unfortunately. Many EU financial institutions struggle to understand LLCs and when the LLC is owned by a UAE resident, you have compounding risk factors.

 

[somerandomuser]

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You could check with this one:
https://www.fiverr.com/cburgess82/provide-full-apostille-services-for-all-us-states

I also sent you a PM with a dozen of notaries, if you have time, please ask them for a quote and let us know. I am not posting their email addresses here to protect their privacy and as it is not confirmed if they offer such services.

Thanks for the information. The price quoted on fiverr seems reasonable.
I've sent out the emails to the notaries from PM and will keep you posted.

 

[somerandomuser]

Have you asked your registered agent? Many registered agents are able to provide apostille documents. Usually costs a few hundred. You can usually get a scan pretty quickly and then the originals by post or courier however long it takes to go from Wyoming to UAE.

I haven't asked but their website says it costs $400 for an apostille, and no mention of notarization. I thought I'd ask OCT community in case someone could suggest a lower cost option (or perhaps there are some magic words I could use to make Verifo accept another document that doesn't require an apostille, haha)

However, based on this, I don't think your chances of success are very high unfortunately. Many EU financial institutions struggle to understand LLCs and when the LLC is owned by a UAE resident, you have compounding risk factors.

Yeah, I'm on the fence whether I should grit my teeth and get the docs they ask for or give up.

 

[redeye]

You should request the full package from your agent, they should be able to provide notarized and apostilled documents as part of the service.

 

[Clank]

You can usually request it directly from the state on their website.

 

[isyet]

I've signed up with Verifo and as part of their KYC process they are now asking me to provide with a notarised membership certificate for my Wyoming US LLC along with an apostille issued in the state of incorporation.
Did anyone have experience getting their docs certified in WY USA from abroad? What is the process and approximate cost / timeline? Can this be done remotely? I'm based in the UAE. Trying to figure out if it's worth it, or should I just move on.

Thanks!

I solved it like this:
I sent the BOI Certificate. They accepted it because the official check can be done through the link in the PDF Certificate.

I also sent the EIN Letter that the IRS sent me as a PDF.

So they gave up on their apostill request.

Try it if you want.

 

[somerandomuser]

I solved it like this:
I sent the BOI Certificate. They accepted it because the official check can be done through the link in the PDF Certificate.

I also sent the EIN Letter that the IRS sent me as a PDF.

So they gave up on their apostill request.

Try it if you want.

That's a great idea. I have a BOI filing transcript ("Beneficial Ownership Information Report (BOIR) Transcript") and it has "BOIR ID", "Submission Tracking ID", and "Reporting Company FinCEN ID", but I couldn't find any link. Could you share a publicly available link where I could enter the above details and look up my submission?

 

[isyet]

That's a great idea. I have a BOI filing transcript ("Beneficial Ownership Information Report (BOIR) Transcript") and it has "BOIR ID", "Submission Tracking ID", and "Reporting Company FinCEN ID", but I couldn't find any link. Could you share a publicly available link where I could enter the above details and look up my submission?

It doesn't matter if you don't have a link in BOIR. I hope sending that PDF will be enough. It's worth a try.

 

[somerandomuser]

It doesn't matter if you don't have a link in BOIR. I hope sending that PDF will be enough. It's worth a try.

I just tried. They are asking me how they can validate this report. It seems providing that link you mentioned is crucial. Would you mind telling me more about the link and how you got it? I filed BOI at https://www.fincen.gov/boi and the transcript was the only document given by fincen as filing confirmation.

 

[SoNewToAllShit]

I just tried. They are asking me how they can validate this report. It seems providing that link you mentioned is crucial. Would you mind telling me more about the link and how you got it? I filed BOI at https://www.fincen.gov/boi and the transcript was the only document given by fincen as filing confirmation.

is it the agent asking for how to verify it or who is asking for it? sorry for the stupidity.

 

[somerandomuser]

is it the agent asking for how to verify it or who is asking for it? sorry for the stupidity.

No worries. Verifo onboarding team don't know how to verify the BOIR I sent them.
As for the agent, they can do an apostille for $400 but can't help with notarization.

 

[disagree]

Here's what my research made me understand so far:
- The document you want to look for when you need to prove ownership of a WY LLC privacy-oriented setup (aka your name is not on the article of organization = you're not stated as the Organizer) -> is Certificate of Incumbency
- For Delaware LLCs "delaware inc" is a registered agent service that also offers the service of both creating the certificate for you, notarizing it, and also apostille it
- A very popular registered agent for both DE and WY LLCs is Northwest. But they don't offer the service of creating this certificate, nor to notarize or apostille it.

For now I still researching this about WY LLCs. As I'm still researching what's the right format of certificate of incumbency for the WY LLC. Still not sure is the same one for Delaware ones.

 

[disagree]

Also, as @daniels27 said, please share updates if you have news on this topic.

I've been doing a LOT of research on this topic, and this is the only subject where many people are very unresponsive in this forum too.

So it would be great to mix our effort and share knowledge, because this can be helpful for so many LLCs owners out there.

 

[daniels27]

Ok and do we know what needs to be notarized? It is either that it is a true copy or that the signature belongs to you (you need to sign in presence).

 

[somerandomuser]

Also, as @daniels27 said, please share updates if you have news on this topic.

No news so far. Getting the docs notarised and apostilled is expensive and time consuming so I just put the whole thing on pause until I find an easier solution.
What @isyet suggested seemed promising but didn't work because the BOI I have is missing the mysterious validation link - I couldn't find any reference to it on the internet and @isyet didn't reply.