"get out of EUSSR" says everyone here, but where?

[ilke]

Look, the words about running away from the EUSSR actually came from one user, and were repeated 100 times.

But can you honestly say they are false?

 

[Lord Palmerstone]

Add Cyprus/Malta and Ireland on the list if you after Med or wet climate and can do non-dom (so passive income only).
The rest you mentioned correctly, there is no ideal setup available. We almost went with Monaco, but decided to give Dubai a go and didn't regret. Apparently, most of our London circle moved the same way and you only spend like 7 months here, then travelling around the globe enjoying the everlasting summer.

Dubai/UAE -- been here now over 30 years and I too do not regret it - PS there are taxes here - it's just that they are called fees and fines .....

 

[friedrich5000]

I do business in EU and plan to exit to Cyprus or Malta as I need proximity to the EU for my work. EU is getting crazy I highly agree ! Green ideology and socialism on the rise... I pay so many taxes and green fees to Furher Ursula than its driving me crazy to be honest.

 

[John Spectre]

But can you honestly say they are false?

Sure they are false.
And word arguments about 'wargomering', 'dictatorship', 'tax hells' etc are easily exposed by looking at where they are tax residents, where they keep their assets, where they get residence permits or passports, where they do business.
nothing from such arguments are not stopping anyone if they actually have interest in certain region or country

 

[burgerin]

Bashing the EU, or as it is called here, EUSSR is a constant on this forum.

The question is where

USA/UK is even worse for taxes and comparably bad on many (other) social issues
LatAm is dangerous
Africa is, well, Africa
Middle East is war-torn / unstable
GCC? Living in Islamic authoritarian futuristic shopping malls with 60-70% of population imported from third world countries and influencers/scammers and unbearable weather 60-70% of the year? Least worst option maybe, but still.
Singapore/HK? Not really tax free, not really free, but maybe?
Where else? China, Russia, Iran, India, etc?
Random jungle paradise in Bali or Thailand?
Or Australia/NZ that have comparable problems to Europe/UK on tax and social issues?
Random banana island in the caribbean/pacific? To live like exiled people used to in xix century? Maybe Cayman/Bermuda are ok enough
Balkans, you may get kidnapped and/or killed.
Switzerland is getting more woke and anti-rich with every year, maybe being surrounded by the EU doesn't help, but for now least worst in Europe
Monaco? Then you are not really outside of EU for many practical (except for importantly, personal income tax) and logistical purposes, as you are surrounded by communist france and broke italy

Like where do you really run?

So it seems obvious liveable things to "escape from the EUSSR to" are Dubai/AD (0), Monaco (0), Cayman (0), Qatar (0), Bermuda (0), or Singapore/HK (not 0), maybe switzerland (not 0)

so islamic desert autocracy, expensive banana island and EU-surrounded tax free franco-italian village monaco are the only tax free options.

Then Switzerland, Singapore or Hong Kong, if you want a real country/megapolis (the abovementioned Dubai ticks that box too) and ready to pay moderate taxes.

So you don't really escape?

You need to touch some grass. This forum is just for the likes of you, lurk into the threads and you will learn a strategy suitable for you. But I doubt you have enough income with this type of "never left the bubble" opinion.

 

[burgerin]

Ursula: We'll turn private savings into much needed investment.

Do you understand what she is openly saying?

EU’s values and concept of democracy:

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The future of Eur:

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EU’s guidelines on freedom of expression. Because EU subjects need to be guided.

How can you remain in a warmongers’ dictatorship? Get the hell out of there until you can, doesn’t matter where.

Trump is doing the same. The Crypto EO was about blockchaining stable coins, also public and private institutions can now be validators.