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I was thinking a place that has good weather during the Northern-hemisphere winter. I would probably spend summers in different countries in Europe (Greece, Italy, France), and then towards the fall I could migrate to a warmer place to have as my main base. Would be great if there were beaches and lots of green.

I find Singapore quite small/boring - it always feels a bit claustrophobic to me. Always feels like people only live there to work. It's also very expensive.
Hong Kong - absolutely love that city, but it's cold in winter. And rents are extremely high as well.
Panama, Costa Rica - Haven't been, but to be honest, I'm not sure I would like it. So far, I haven't really been a fan of Central/South American countries. I just don't really click with the culture. I think I'll go check it out in the future, but I'm skeptical.
KL - I've always been a huge fan, love how green it is, but somehow during my latest visit I didn't love it as much as before. The air quality can also be very poor, there's often smog/haze.
Japan - Absolutely love it, one of my favorite countries. I've even been thinking about moving there despite colder weather in winter. But it does get quite cold, no? Even in Okinawa. And I have been to Naha, wasn't that impressed. Only tourists and US military.
Taiwan - not a fan. And not really warm in winter.
Mauritius - see above.
Labuan - haven't been, but I guess it will be poorer than KL. Also doubt that tax advantages would be that great, as many tax treaties explicitly exclude Labuan.
Fiji - would love to go, main issue is that it's so far away, annoying to travel to and not easy with the time zone.
Sri Lanka - haven't been, from what I have heard, it is similar to Mauritius, so subpar beaches, quite poor, not very developed.
Cuba - not interested.
Thailand - Definitely one of the top options. Bangkok is great and there's a lot of high-quality real estate, services are cheap etc. Biggest issue is that I don't like the noise and pollution and it's not very walkable. And as soon as you go to a smaller place, it would probably suffer from the same issues again (less developed etc.).
Indonesia - not developed enough. Jakarta is a bit better, but I'm not a fan, it's just a huge city without much soul. Lots of malls and apartment high-rises. Bandung was a bit nicer, but again too small and not that easy to get to.
Vietnam - from what I've heard, Phu Quoc is very underdeveloped outside the 2-3 resorts. Also lots of garbage in the sea/on the beaches. I've been to HCMC and I found it boring/soulless, just like Jakarta.
Hawaii - didn't like it. Very expensive and difficult to find healthy food (USA). Felt like what the Canary Islands are for Europeans - a place you go to when you want nice weather. Nice enough if it's a 4-6 hour flight from your home. Not worth it at all if you have to fly for longer than that.

I would like to live in an apartment that has the build quality of an international five-star hotel. Think Four Seasons (they actually have residences in many places, so it's a good example).
Thailand and the UAE both offer this. UAE is more expensive. Both would be OK options.
But I know next to nothing about the Carribean, so I'm wondering if that could be an alternative.
Another option would be to just spend the winters in Florida.

Tax benefits would be nice, but I'm not that worried, as I would expect to be able to set things up in a tax-efficient way regardless, and I would be OK with paying some tax for higher quality of life.
It might be time to start thinking about must have and nice to have. There's probably more than a few that would like a similar kind of place you are hoping to find. If they have found it, then most likely keeping quiet for fear of it being ruined by the crowds.

There's also probably some places in Queensland, Australia that meet some of those requirements, however, you will pay dearly for them and cost wasn't a factor in your first post. Speaking of that, yes Hawaii has become very expensive and I can no longer justify what some are asking for their vacation rentals.

Florida became very expensive during covid when it no longer had the low season and the high season prices went higher. If you're fine with crowds, go ahead. I used to dread seeing the car transporters arriving around Thanksgiving... PBI used to be a pleasant airport (by US standards so a low bar) and now it's seems to be a mess all year.
 
It might be time to start thinking about must have and nice to have. There's probably more than a few that would like a similar kind of place you are hoping to find. If they have found it, then most likely keeping quiet for fear of it being ruined by the crowds.

There are definitely places like this in Southern Europe, but they're cold in winter, so not what I'm looking for.

There's also probably some places in Queensland, Australia that meet some of those requirements, however, you will pay dearly for them and cost wasn't a factor in your first post. Speaking of that, yes Hawaii has become very expensive and I can no longer justify what some are asking for their vacation rentals.

Both Australia and Hawaii are also just too far away from Europe for me. Both in terms of travel time and time zones.
And I'm really scared of the Australian tax authority... They seem even worse than the Spanish one.

Florida became very expensive during covid when it no longer had the low season and the high season prices went higher. If you're fine with crowds, go ahead. I used to dread seeing the car transporters arriving around Thanksgiving... PBI used to be a pleasant airport (by US standards so a low bar) and now it's seems to be a mess all year.

I haven't seen much of Florida yet. I'd probably have to check out Miami a bit more.
I wasn't too impressed with rural Florida, which felt like it was just swampland...
 
Both Australia and Hawaii are also just too far away from Europe for me. Both in terms of travel time and time zones.
Then go there after spending some time in Asia. It he closer. And for the work, you may want to do it in the evening. But who cares about EUSSR anyway ;)

I haven't seen much of Florida yet. I'd probably have to check out Miami a bit more.
I wasn't too impressed with rural Florida, which felt like it was just swampland...
You may want to invest in an alligator farm.
 
Same with Bangkok, for example, but Bangkok lacks a beach.
Probably Koh Samui or Phuket could fit the bill as well, though i found at least Koh Samui still to be rather underdeveloped.
Definitely undervalued: I suggest you spend some time in Pattaya and surrounding areas, out of the touristic chaos.
You have it all - decent infrastructure, food, sea breeze, girls... - at a bit more of 1h ride from BKK airport.
 
Definitely undervalued: I suggest you spend some time in Pattaya and surrounding areas, out of the touristic chaos.
You have it all - decent infrastructure, food, sea breeze, girls...
ah the tranquil Walking Street and Soi 6. We know what you are referring to rof/%
 
Definitely undervalued: I suggest you spend some time in Pattaya and surrounding areas, out of the touristic chaos.
You have it all - decent infrastructure, food, sea breeze, girls... - at a bit more of 1h ride from BKK airport.

I haven't been to Pattaya because I've heard it's basically an open-air brothel.
I have met some people who loved it, but they were gross sexpats... But maybe it's better outside the touristic areas?
I've also heard that the average age for Westerners is more like 60-70+...
 
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yeah but you rejuvenate there... the real age calculation depends on the age of your thai "wife"...
real age in thai = (your age + your "wife")/2.
I think we need to work a bit on the maths to make it suitable for real life:
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Real hot guys normally have more than one "wife" in bed, I heard.
 
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Tax benefits would be nice, but I'm not that worried, as I would expect to be able to set things up in a tax-efficient way regardless, and I would be OK with paying some tax for higher quality of life.

if you don't mind taxes and French then Reunion is the place for you - the best mix of Europe and the tropics, multiple over-night flights to Paris daily
 
I haven't been to Pattaya because I've heard it's basically an open-air brothel.
I have met some people who loved it, but they were gross sexpats... But maybe it's better outside the touristic areas?
I've also heard that the average age for Westerners is more like 60-70+...
Like everything, better judge by yourself. Nowhere is perfect but Pattaya, out of the stereotyped zones and crowd, tick many boxes.
 
if you don't mind taxes and French then Reunion is the place for you - the best mix of Europe and the tropics, multiple over-night flights to Paris daily

Do they have buildings with high quality? Think Four Seasons quality, not Motel 8. That's my biggest gripe with many such countries. I want to live in a nice place, not something with paper-thin walls and plastic window frames...
 
Do they have buildings with high quality? Think Four Seasons quality, not Motel 8. That's my biggest gripe with many such countries. I want to live in a nice place, not something with paper-thin walls and plastic window frames...
I never stayed in Four Seasons so... can't tell... anyways I'm still a bit confused what are you looking for? your own place to rent, to buy, or a hotel?

if you put aside local creole/black people and all the tropical perks (insects, cyclones, dengue fever, ...) it's almost full-fat France (yes, including their passion for strikes) - you can surely find luxury multi-million houses or find a renowned company and architect to build one for you - this place is probably not as expensive as Bahamas but still pretty expensive
 
But with French taxes? If you are not broke, you are pretty for sure better off in Hong Kong, even with high real estate prices.
 
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