Have seen it done several times at different financial service providers and regulated entities. Client presents proof of address with wrong font or unexpected data (doesn't match template on file), so client is asked for another proof of address. If the second proof isn't available or is also suspicious, discussions begin around closing account, filing SAR, and so on.
Military grade = cheapest vendor.
If the sheet 1 contains your account number (as it should) and the sheet 2 also contains this number (as it should) then it can be completely sufficient to anyone except total moron.Perhaps the language barrier did not allow me to specifically convey my demands or I was unlucky with my bank. I paid the money and received the following documents in this form:
1 sheet: bank certificate on official letterhead indicating my name and address
2 sheet: screenshot of transactions from their internal program on plain paper
Well, it's not completely clear to me what particular document(s) you presented, nevertheless the demand for a document that “must have visible your name, issue date, address, company letterhead, and the history of incoming and outgoing payments performed recently” is really non-standard. Especially if this is the document that you must present. Cf discussion about typical look of bank statements above.not my case, here's what I got from EMI support:
Unfortunately, the attached document has been rejected as it is not an acceptable document type, please attach a standard bank/card statement from a traditional bank, if you wish to submit a financial document, the document must have visible your name, issue date, address, company letterhead, and the history of incoming and outgoing payments performed recently.
Please attach either a photo of the original paper colorized or the digital PDF with selectable text.
Or to consider going for some other EMI. Yes, perhaps you might have been considered as some high-risk person (due to nationality ?? – could you share your citizenship?) but honestly, I would not like to bank with complete morons...most likely my option is only to seek the receipt of original documents at the bank branch
ThanksWell, but let's go back to the particular @DagnyTaggart ' s trouble...
I have provided this documentationWell, it's not completely clear to me what particular document(s) you presented
P@xumCould you share the name of the EMI concerned?
UA, not captured territory, but which Russia recently recognized its. Many systems (e.g. Scrill) automatically block people from the territories where the referendum allegedly took place, despite the fact that the EU did not impose sanctions against ordinary civilianscould you share your citizenship?)
yes, I try to sign up for other systems as well, but most of them also require a bank statement with an addressOr to consider going for some other EMI
Morons. (I presume account number being on both sheets.) Run away.I have provided this documentation
1 sheet: bank certificate on official letterhead indicating my name and address
2 sheet: screenshot of transactions from their internal program on plain paper
and got this answer
Unfortunately, the attached document has been rejected as it is not an acceptable document type....
Politics is interfering the business, unfortunately; and because of demencia of a majority of politicians, the results are horrible.UA, not captured territory, but which Russia recently recognized its. Many systems (e.g. Scrill) automatically block people from the territories where the referendum allegedly took place, despite the fact that the EU did not impose sanctions against ordinary civilians
Not necessarilly a bank statement; just a proof of address that can also be a utility bill, a rental agreement, a government or municipality letter, an insurance agreement, etc.yes, I try to sign up for other systems as well, but most of them also require a bank statement with an address
Yes. The second sheet has my name, account number, some transactions also mention my name.Morons. (I presume account number being on both sheets.) Run away.
yes, absolutely legalI have understand, you are currently living in EU, correct?
First of all, I provided a lease agreement, as well as a government document on the right to reside in which the address of residence is indicated. To which I received an answer that in my case these documents cannot be accepted and only a bank statement is suitable. When I asked why documents of a private commercial structure are more important to them in comparison with government documents, the answer was not received.Not necessarilly a bank statement; just a proof of address that can also be a utility bill, a rental agreement, a government or municipality letter, an insurance agreement, etc.
the owner of the premises receives receipts for utilities.address that can also be a utility bill
the platform from which I will withdraw money is legal, but has fame associated with adult content, the set of payment services is limited: p@xum (required for settlements with the counterparty), cosmo, scrill (using at the moment), visa card (ideal option).Try e.g. Verifo, Blackcatcard, Nebeus.
Morons or (badly) trained monkeys, you can choose. Nothing more to add.Yes. The second sheet has my name, account number, some transactions also mention my name.
First of all, I provided a lease agreement, as well as a government document on the right to reside in which the address of residence is indicated. To which I received an answer that in my case these documents cannot be accepted and only a bank statement is suitable. When I asked why documents of a private commercial structure are more important to them in comparison with government documents, the answer was not received.
Wrt to the above, it does not matter.the owner of the premises receives receipts for utilities.
You have my sympathies.despite the confident experience in using graphic editors, I hope to resolve the issue in an honest way and postponed this method to the extreme.
Oh well.the platform from which I will withdraw money is legal, but has fame associated with adult content, the set of payment services is limited: p@xum (required for settlements with the counterparty), cosmo, scrill (using at the moment), visa card (ideal).
despite the confident experience in using graphic editors, I hope to resolve the issue in an honest way and postponed this method to the extreme.
Update: Nevertheless, if they behave like imbeciles and in the same time, you might have just a limited set of options, I think you can feel free to feed them what they pray for . I think it can be considered honest . Just check, whether in the jurisdiction of your current residence it can be treated as a fraud attempt or not and what are the possible consequences.You have my sympathies.
OnlyF@ns(I am not oriented is adult business, I just wonder.)
This is excluded, it did not come to the withdrawal of funds from the platform. I registered a P@xum account when I was still in UA and was blocked as soon as I provided a statement from the local bank with the address of residence in UA. Following this, I received a message that I could be unlocked when I moved to live in another region. And now I live in another country...In such a case, I think the platform is the core of the problem
This world is testing me for strength, but I still give it a chanceThis has been an amazing 3-pages long trip on the topic “photoshop and monkeys”.
The picture that you added have topped it up!This has been an amazing 3-pages long trip on the topic “photoshop and monkeys”.
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Oh, I see. Well, this is such a well-known portal that even I know about itOnlyF@ns
In such a case, I think the platform is the core of the problem, and it is mainly citizenship independent...
You are misunderstanding. I meant this: the core of the problem is the fact that this platform seems to allow you only a limited number of options for a withdrawal (so you are limited in the selecting an EMI/bank).This is excluded, it did not come to the withdrawal of funds from the platform. I registered a P@xum account when I was still in UA and was blocked as soon as I provided a statement from the local bank with the address of residence in UA. Following this, I received a message that I could be unlocked when I moved to live in another region. And now I live in another country...
You are welcome.P.S. It was a fascinating conversation. I am very grateful to everyone for every comment in this feed. There is no price for those who spend the main resource of human life (their own time) to help others.
Well, I am personally not engaged in such a business but I guess that any new information can help someone here. So I encourage you to continueIf anyone is interested, I will update this topic when new details appear.
i think they are not simply asking a statement, but a so called RIB (in french relevé d'identité bancaire) which is another document confirming IBAN, your name AND adress.The following situation: an account with an "old school" European bank has been opened, IBAN in my name, the address of residence in Europe, IBAN is valid and is being validated. There is a registered card linked to the account. I want to open an account with EMI. Verification requires a bank statement with the standard details for such a procedure. Name, address, transaction statement.
My bank does not have details of an address in the statement. A hard copy statement contains only the name, account number, and transaction. In the statement from the bank's online service, only transactions in pdf or excel format are uploaded and does not have any data about the client.
Question. How do EMI and similar organizations verify a pdf statement? If I add the necessary details to the unloaded statement and provide them for verification, they will be able to calculate that adjustments have been made to the statement.
What should you pay attention to at all? who can advise how to be in such a situation?
i had impression that you are dealing with paxumP@xum
hey, no. I've never faked or cheated on anything. I have already received a statement of the required form at the bank branch.i had impression that you are dealing with paxum
paxum trace pdf files which was modified and they will threat to close the account or just close it .
Can you name any court cases in the last 25 years then about 'adding your real address' to your bank statement being charged as fraud? Having to do it because the bank concerned are so incompetent at printing statements that their customers would need for KYC checks.... or to use some of various OSS solutions
Yes The question is how it will work
Well, in some jurisdictions it would be interpreted as a fraud attempt, if you do so in the abovedesribed context (I know what I am speaking about). And it really can be revealed by comparison, it is a different situation just to change the address (in fact not traceable, really) and to add it.
it’s instant arrest, torture and prison, the crime is so serious that you don’t even go through court and media don’t talk about it in fear of causing emulationCan you name any court cases in the last 25 years then about 'adding your real address' to your bank statement being charged as fraud?
Penalties being executed by Ursula herself. Big big punishment.it’s instant arrest, torture and prison, the crime is so serious that you don’t even go through court and media don’t talk about it in fear of causing emulation
This is some document specific to French banks / French environment, I guess? (I have never heard about it before, I must admit.)i think they are not simply asking a statement, but a so called RIB (in french relevé d'identité bancaire) which is another document confirming IBAN, your name AND adress.
A big congratulation! (BTW, could you share the name of the bank, to promote their flexibility /I'm not joking/)?I have already received a statement of the required form at the bank branch.
I'll send you a PM.Can you name any court cases in the last 25 years then about 'adding your real address' to your bank statement being charged as fraud? Having to do it because the bank concerned are so incompetent at printing statements that their customers would need for KYC checks.
KBC Group(BTW, could you share the name of the bank, to promote their flexibility /I'm not joking/)?