Why do I need ANY tax residency?

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Your country tax office will ask you 1 question
"Where are you a tax resident of if not here"
If the answer to that is not a SPECIFIC nation, guess what, you are going to pay taxes there. They will not accept the answer you just are not a resident of australia or canada, etc. You must say a specific nation or else forget it.
 
This happened to me once. I told them Port Vila, Vanuatu. Dead silence ever since ...
 
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That's how it is in most EU countries, if not all. If you give up your residency one place you will have to get it in another country or you will be taxed where you lived before.
 
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PT (= permanent traveler/tourist) lifestyle is no longer possible in the EU, unless you are a citizen of Germany, Austria or certain Swiss cantons. All others will run into problems with banks and other financial institutions. As @hernanday explained, at least some countries won't even let their tax slaves go, unless those slaves can prove they are property of another slaveholder.

Being a PT stopped working for me in 2018. After a KYC-runaround, I was kicked out by my online broker. My P.O. Box address wasn't the main issue, but lack of a Tax ID. Banks too were getting impatient. If one wants to have anything to do with EU financial institutions, the only solution is to get a Tax ID.
 
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What happened to your previous tax ID, and why didn't you give it to your broker?
Having a tax ID does not necessarily mean that you have to pay any taxes there.
 
This is a generalization and not correct for every country. For example the UK does not care where you are as long as you are not uk resident.
Other countries want an address where you move (don't need to be tax resident there) but will not ask where you move after having moved there.
 
What happened to your previous tax ID, and why didn't you give it to your broker?
My country of citizenship's tax office had declared I am no longer tax resident there, so the broker insisted I must have another tax id. In their way of thinking, one must be tax resident somewhere. I may have contributed to my own demise by keeping my address current in their system. But giving obviously false information about one's address & tax ID does not sound like a good long-term solution either.
 
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I will add to this, that KYC also makes it impossible as he explains, it has gotten so bad, that banks no longer want to open accounts for Americans in France because they must maintain your account forever because of facta! I was talking to a French banker friend and he told me this is the reason they don't want to open accounts for Americans. Under facta, if you live $500 in your french account, and leave france for ever, they must report on you until your fees are all overtaken your deposit and maintain the records forever. So itt is just easier to not open an account unless the person is extremely rich.
 
Yes, it is a generalization, there is no way I could give an answer for all 190+ nations in the world.
With the way tax offices are increasingly aggressive, it would not surprise me if the UK follows this path if they have not already.
I would question your interpretation of UK tax law in practice as well. I could be wrong here, I'm not specifically familiar with UK law. However, it sounds very similar to what the other countries claim on paper, but the tax offices interpretation is likely to be different. The law says in Canada, you don't have to pay tax if you are a non-resident (like UK). But the CRA then claims you are a resident if you have a car, house, kids, wife, pets, driver's license, healthcard, all in Canada,even if you didn't step foot in the country for an entire year.

Think of this practically, how are you going to prove to the UK tax office you are not a resident. Do you really think they will accept the answer not UK resident, I'm a perpetual wonderer, I just travelled outside the UK for 365 days a year? I can almost guarantee they won't accept this answer because someone could just sit in the UK, claim they sailed out and sailed in, while living in the uk the entire time and claim not resident and they'd have no way to disprove it. Instead it is a reverse onus, you must prove you were not a resident of UK, or else they will claim you are a "deemed resident". I could be wrong, but I can almost guarantee with 95% confidence, UK government is not going to let you off the hook that easy.
 
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How did your broker find out about this?
Why not just give him the tax id of your corporation in your offshore jurisdiction?
 
When you leave the UK you fill in the P85 form you must specify where you are going too i.e question 12. This is normal you don't vanish without giving info on which country you are going too.

Still owning a UK home that you will use only 30 days in a tax year is enough to remain UK tax resident. You can use the following simply flow diagram below to determine if you will still be considered UK tax resident after leaving UK.

https://home.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/pdf/2016/01/statutory-residence-test-flowchart.pdf
 
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Cyprus could be solution to you. It's pretty simple to get residency there. In such case you would have utility bill etc..
Of course it much depends on your personal situation. How much income you get annualy. There are residency programs all around EU: UK non-dom, Portugal, Netherlands, Italy, Monaco, Malta and etc.. They are all specific and it all depends. But if you earn less than ~100k maybe solution would be to get residency in a lower tax country..
 

The 183 rule is not trivial to prove for many governments, even if they have ID controls, as long as you do live as tourist and do not deal with the local bureaucracy (no salary, no companies, no real state...).
In many EU countries you do not even have have frontiers, so you can literally walk across countries with no trace.
 
What about "I have income only from outside of your country and I'm not a tax resident in your country"?

When you leave the UK you fill in the P85 form you must specify where you are going too i.e question 12. This is normal you don't vanish without giving info on which country you are going too.

What would happen if you give them another EU country, then you go to that country for a few days, but "change your mind" and actually get a residence in a 3rd country without letting the UK authorities know?
 
What would happen if you give them another EU country, then you go to that country for a few days, but "change your mind" and actually get a residence in a 3rd country without letting the UK authorities know?

Well firstly UK is not in the EU any longer . I don't see too much of a problem doing what you say. However you could end up with mail from HMRC that goes missing if your last address given to them is no longer valid. So at least give an address you can retrieve future HMRC communication.
 
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