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extremedox101

extremedox101

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hi

i'm trying to find an answer to how i should make successful low-mid xxxx range deposits with debit cards without risking Skrill or TW account , the direction/option that have advantage over the other should work fine if i'm doing several transactions per month .

which is safer to do in your opinion...?

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i have stealth EEA skrill account , i know the volume is not issue at all with skrill . but with this account i'm not positive using (non western /non EEA card) as primary card ,will this flag my account ??

2# i have normal TW account no vpn etc, i use transferwise since 10 months . tw don't accept wire transfer from my country just send , recently i started to fund my account with local bank card i'm not sure why i have never think of it before , yet i did not try anything over high 3 digits . do you think its trouble if i deposit 2-3k into transferwise with cc then i repeat after week and receive other payments in same month?

i read paranoid stuff about transferwise and how they close accounts with low to zero balances . everything i do is clean but i would still avoid any drama or losing account.

i'm able to send wires to another emi , thought it will take 3-5 days till i can fully use funds , tw method take 2-3 days to transfer money where i want .

thanks
 
#2
extremedox101 said:
i'm trying to find an answer to how i should make successful low-mid xxxx range deposits with debit cards without risking Skrill or TW account , the direction/option that have advantage over the other should work fine if i'm doing several transactions per month .
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Sorry. Whats your end goal? Where do you want money to be in end?

I would just stick to card to card transfers and don't blow up your TW or SK accounts.
 
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VBMP said:
TW will close your account sooner or later for sure, and about skrill, you can read reviews about their madness in trustpilot.
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few days ago in another thread someone pointed out an important thing - if you let them make some money you'll be a valued customer
 
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Martin Everson said:
Sorry. Whats your end goal? Where do you want money to be in end?

I would just stick to card to card transfers and don't blow up your TW or SK accounts.
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i buy crypto with skrill card or trade . i know skrill isn't paranoid unless they suspect fraud false or true .
but you are right there is even higher risk with TW to be specific , and for TW i think this too much for them to handle ...i think it's supplementary option

currently i don't know of any card2card service available for non EEA/europe users to send international payment from their local cards to eu issued card or skrill card i.e .. but the other way around works for me , but interestingly enough my skrill VCC is issued in non EU country although i appear to be living in uk as non native ... i have an idea to open account with bank founded in my skrill home country , then apply for credit card and fund skrill this way.

as for transferwise it's longer , i transfer to my EU iban on another non crypto related emi.--- this option take more time as wire/swift transfer .
 
#6
VBMP said:
TW will close your account sooner or later for sure, and about skrill, you can read reviews about their madness in trustpilot.
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i agree with you this just risky to do , i have experience with skrill support i can pressure them to change action sometimes, but i believe EEA topic is little more sensitive .
 
#7
void said:
few days ago in another thread someone pointed out an important thing - if you let them make some money you'll be a valued customer
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true .. maybe u are talking about skrill? i had some days adding considerable amounts without long breaks , they are actually more open than new emi's but support is terrible .
 
#8
extremedox101 said:
true .. maybe u are talking about skrill? i had some days adding considerable amounts without long breaks , they are actually more open than new emi's but support is terrible .
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yes, I have more experience with Skrill but it applies to TW and others too - they want money so it's worth the hassle - no surprise

Skrill is specific since they have multiple times more customers than any other EMI and they work the old school way - you can't expect the same from them as from a new EMI that is 1 year on the market

I mentioned this here a few times - get a VIP level (the higher the better :)) and you'll see the difference
 
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void said:
yes, I have more experience with Skrill but it applies to TW and others too - they want money so it's worth the hassle - no surprise

Skrill is specific since they have multiple times more customers than any other EMI and they work the old school way - you can't expect the same from them as from a new EMI that is 1 year on the market

I mentioned this here a few times - get a VIP level (the higher the better :)) and you'll see the difference
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yes , i agree its seem skrill been there for long time , they even know how to apologize to customers. for this reason i avoided hustlers like mistertango . you are right about the vip status , actually i missed the chance to reach this level because i spent 10k on 3 separated months and not in normal order .
 
#11
Martin Everson said:
I used to use Skrill for business many years ago back when it was called moneybookers.com. I didn't realise the service has fallen off so badly :confused:

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/skrill.com
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i think skrill don't monitor trustpilot this why rating is so low ... i don't trust companies with very high positive feedback .sometimes business owners work with this site to manipulate reviews .
 
#12
extremedox101 said:
i think skrill don't monitor trustpilot this why rating is so low ... i don't trust companies with very high positive feedback .sometimes business owners work with this site to manipulate reviews .
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Skrill monitor trust pilot regularly as you can see below for example. There is just too much negative feedback for them to cope with. You saying that 75% of 1,765 reviews giving it one star are fake? conf/(%. I know fake reviews go on but come on now......lol

https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/5d11ea6542fa560a385cc762
 
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Martin Everson said:
Skrill monitor trust pilot regularly as you can see below for example. There is just too much negative feedback for them to cope with. You saying that 75% of 1,765 reviews giving it one star are fake? conf/(%. I know fake reviews go on but come on now......lol

https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/5d11ea6542fa560a385cc762
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check from page 5 to 72 (which take you back to 2012) , i don't say this smi(&% but i think it's the other way around when reviews are unusually positive , they are indication of higher manipulation.
 
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extremedox101 said:
check from page 5 to 72 (which take you back to 2012) , i don't say this smi(&% but i think it's the other way around when reviews are unusually positive , they are indication of higher manipulation.
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lol....you think all that negative feedback is fake going back to 2012....really? conf/(% These pesky Russians have some hard working bots I guess.

P.S I googled "Skrill scam" and that told me all I need to know...hehe. Feedback on every site is negative for Skrill.
 
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Martin Everson said:
lol....you think all that negative feedback is fake going back to 2012....really? conf/(% These pesky Russians have some hard working bots I guess.

P.S I googled "Skrill scam" and that told me all I need to know...hehe. Feedback on every site is negative for Skrill.
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haha why you are looking to knock me out now ? it's not pleasure to chat.... gru87¤¤
 
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We can discuss trustpilot hours. This website is almost completely fake.
An happy customer will never come to a review website to say that he a happy. It a like that.
Bad feedback most are true but sometimes there is people crying for 1 day delay or outrageous fees of 2 cents.
Trustpilot will never make me choose a company because of its feedback
 
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Bmw850 said:
An happy customer will never come to a review website to say that he a happy.
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important fact


Bmw850 said:
Trustpilot will never make me choose a company because of its feedback
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it's very efficient as a "stay away" factor if you correctly estimate the importance of such a message - the amount of bad reviews relative to the "size" of company

looking at very low number of reviews on Skrill/Neteller compared to services like Transferwise/Revolut it's obvious that it tells nothing about a company that is many times bigger
also the geographical and regulatory differences may play a big role (EEA customer is very different from the US customer or Indian one)

btw look at PayPal - you got my point?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.paypal.com
 
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Bmw850 said:
We can discuss trustpilot hours. This website is almost completely fake.
An happy customer will never come to a review website to say that he a happy. It a like that.
Bad feedback most are true but sometimes there is people crying for 1 day delay or outrageous fees of 2 cents.
Trustpilot will never make me choose a company because of its feedback
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this is true , i think it was good idea to have place that show company score based on genuine reviews , but trustpilot don't work like that .
 
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