Switzerland Corporate Service Provider

[JustAnotherNomad]

I have heard some rumors that there are corporate service providers in Switzerland who can use clever international structures to achieve much lower taxation than the head corporate income tax rate.
How do you find such providers and know that they really have experience with this and aren't just reselling some nonsense setup that won't withstand an audit?
People I have spoken to just offered me very basic services (standard company formation).

I think it was @jafo who mentioned you should go to Zug in person and talk to some providers as most won't want to discuss such things without meeting you face to face first.
But even then, how do you find the right people?

Pinging @EliasIT and @clemens as I believe they have some experience.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

If you really are fascinated by the Swiss scam, work with lawyers. Better protection and better knowledge. Happy to give you referrals in private, at your own risk.

 

[daniels27]

Maybe those posts

Post in thread 'UAE clarification of Freezone Qualifying Income'

Jun 9, 2023

"If a person with total revenue of more than AED 3 million artificially separates his/her business to claim benefits under Small Business Relief, it will be considered an arrangement to obtain a Corporate Tax advantage under the General Anti-Abuse Rules (GAAR) set out in Article 50 of the Corporate Tax Law."

#Bingo!

This is so perverse and devious! It essentially ERODES the personal income tax of zero!

In other words, I have a few clients who will NOT do business with a company for certain products. They want to pay into my personal account. They want me to be personally...

• jafo

Post in thread 'Switzerland - An exposé by CNBC International..'

Feb 8, 2024

If we are talking about lump sum taxation and a person who earns 2M/y there is no better option than Monaco. Just park 1M there, rent a studio for 5K monthly and pay nothing in tax. Even Italy with 100K lump sum is cheaper.

True!
But for me, Italy was not available back then and nowadays I'm not too much of a fan of Italy due to their immigration policies.
Zug is extremely quiet and people are so nice. There is hardly any crime and I can go walking at midnight without any fear of having to stand trial for self-defense.

Also, I needed a place NOT considered...

• jafo

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[EliasIT]

If you think I’m going to share details about the providers I use or how I’ve figured out the absolute best setup for myself, forget it.

I’m not revealing how it’s done, not because I don’t want to help, but because it would put my entire setup at risk.

Some things you just have to figure out on your own through trial and error. And yes, it’s going to cost a lot of money. Yes, you’ll waste plenty of cash on clueless people trying to sell you things they don’t even understand. But that’s just how the game works.

I can’t help you.

Take Jafo’s advice, set up deals with multiple providers from Zug, listen, learn, experiment, and see if it works for you.

 

[JustAnotherNomad]

If you think I’m going to share details about the providers I use or how I’ve figured out the absolute best setup for myself, forget it.

I have understood you don't want to do that, and I totally understand and accept that.
I was asking about hints how you have found your providers, so I can do the same.

Take Jafo’s advice, set up deals with multiple providers from Zug, listen, learn, experiment, and see if it works for you.

I was just hoping to be able to save some time - both mine and the providers'. Not much point in talking to people who only tell me what the official corporate income and withholding tax rates are - I can use Google for that.