Is it theft if you steal the loot from a thief?

[JohnnyDoe]

Who is the thief here?
https://www.theblock.co/post/322972...hlid=03cfae9f564f53216cfd42688999ec0a2aa37e50

 

[lavel]

I would say it depends on how you look at it. You could say that the cryptos held by the U.S. government likely come mostly from seizures from criminals or potentially criminal individuals. But let me put it this way: I don’t feel sorry for them, and I hope the hacker succeeds in getting away with their haul.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

I would say it depends on how you look at it. You could say that the cryptos held by the U.S. government likely come mostly from seizures from criminals or potentially criminal individuals.

Not a single satoshi held by the U.S. government was legitimately acquired.

 

[redeye]

Not a single satoshi held by the U.S. government was legitimately acquired.

agree all over.

 

[Freetrade]

Now he is sending it all back

https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/entity/usg

 

[ilke]

We can base the answer off of Rothbard's Ethics of Liberty. Rothbard argues that taxation is a form of "legalized theft" because it relies on coercion and not any voluntary consent; there is no such thing as a "social contract" as defined by some left-wingers. As the government has no legitimate claim to the wealth it extorts, taking assets back from the state can just be an act of restitution. Rothbard asserts that reclaiming property that was initially taken through force doesn’t equate to "theft" but rather corrects an earlier injustice.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

We can base the answer off of Rothbard's Ethics of Liberty. Rothbard argues that taxation is a form of "legalized theft" because it relies on coercion and not any voluntary consent; there is no such thing as a "social contract" as defined by some left-wingers. As the government has no legitimate claim to the wealth it extorts, taking assets back from the state can just be an act of restitution. Rothbard asserts that reclaiming property that was initially taken through force doesn’t equate to "theft" but rather corrects an earlier injustice.

You nailed it.

I suggest to read https://a.co/d/hzqC1s2
“The state” is not the “society”. Nock teaches us that the state’s primary function is to seize wealth and redistribute it for its own purposes.

 

[WorldCitizen99]

Who is the thief here?
https://www.theblock.co/post/322972...hlid=03cfae9f564f53216cfd42688999ec0a2aa37e50

It's theft if you don't give it back to its original owner

 

[koohl]

Now he is sending it all back

https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/entity/usg

View attachment 8085

Why does he give it back to them... stupid man

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Why

FUD

 

[GPT]

Who is the thief here?
https://www.theblock.co/post/322972...hlid=03cfae9f564f53216cfd42688999ec0a2aa37e50

It depends on your perspective. Robin Hood comes to mind but also "taxation is legalised theft" including the argument that in some countries income tax was never legalised to begin with.

IMO it depends on where you draw the ethical and moral line yourself.

 

[daniels27]

I think there was once a guy who stole from Silk Road and then got arrested a decade later:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...billion-cryptocurrency-seizure-and-conviction

In view of this, I would claim that stealing from thieves is most likely theft in the US.

 

[0xDEADBEEF]

In view of this, I would claim that stealing from thieves is most likely theft in the US.

I would double down and say that not paying 'pizzo' to 'the mafia' is considered even worse than theft.

These people do not care, as long as they get their piece of the cake without any solid justification.