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Bad experience with HSBC Expat

scorona884

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Hello, I am new to this forum. I live in London and I wanted to share with you my *horrific* experience with HSB Expat. Let me start by saying that, I do not have a business, I wanted the Expat account because I have interests in Italy (where I am originally from) and having an account in EUR would help. In Italy accounts for non-residents are quite expensive. I needed one fairly urgently because of some payments I had to make (I still have a house there so I pay insurance etc). Let me share with you the timeline of events - sorry in advance for the long thread:

  • Called them on 23rd of Sep to ask them questions about the account. The guy on the phone submitted an application for me over the phone. Got no confirmation email nothing.
  • Called them twice afterwards in the next few days because I didn’t get any application number or anything of this sort. The first time I was told it was processing, the second time I was told they had NO RECORD of my application at all. Seriously?
  • 1rs of Oct: submitted a new application online and verification docs. Didn’t hear back for weeks.
  • Chased them several times and they never even bothered to look up the status of the application. Only one person did and said it was “in progress” and he said he bet I’d hear back by middle of next week. Keep in mind, all this time I have been calling Jersey so I pay for these calls.
  • Finally they call me back mid-next week as the guy said saying that the Amex latest statement was not sufficient. They wanted – and I quote – a picture taken with my camera of the email notification that Amex sent to me saying my statement was ready. I sent everything out on the same day. They disappeared again.
  • After a week or so I chased them and the guy said that my account had been approved. They disappeared again. I called them two days later asking for my account because, as I said, it was fairly urgent due to these payments I needed to make. They didn’t care less. Normally it takes a few days for them to open the account but now it takes them weeks because of the “Coronavirus”. Everything is blamed on this bloody Coronavirus. This has been ongoing for 8 BLOODY MONTHS and they still have not gotten their s*it together. STILL.
  • The next day, on Oct 22nd, I got an alert form my credit report company saying HSBC had done a search on me.
  • On Tuesday Oct 27th I got my shiny US Dollars debit card which saying was useless is an understatement since I had a EURO saving account. But OK. I didn’t need a card anyway, since most of my payments are done online. Discarded the card.
  • A few days later I got the debit card PIN.
  • Meanwhile I was contacted by someone last week saying they wanted to schedule a call to get me in contact with the financial adviser, sort of a welcome call. The call was cancelled 2 days later WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION whatsoever – I only received a cancellation via email.
  • I still had not received the code and the secure key I needed in order to finally set up the online banking and move my money from my HSBC currency account into the Expat account.
  • This is when it actually gets ridiculous: the PIN and key were ordered on the 22nd of Oct, they never arrived. They re-ordered them a few days later, never arrived. To this day I have received nothing. HSBC are blaming Royal Mail saying they are the problem. And I said I don’t think so. I order stuff online through eBay all the time, even from abroad, and I never have any issues. I did have some issues back in March/April but now Royal Mail has been operating as normal. Even in the 2nd lockdown. They have processes in place. I have received everything I have ordered except the stuff from HSBC. If it was a problem with Royal Mail the debit card would have been delayed and instead it got here in 3 days’ time. If the key and Pin had also been sent, they would have been here already. I hardly had anything lost in the mail in 8 years of living in the UK. One letter ONLY was ever lost. Their department are not sending things and they blame Royal Mail.
  • Today I called yet again and I told the guy on the phone, that’s it, close the account because it’s an unusable account. I need the online baking in order to use it. He probably wasn’t supposed to say anything, but he said that a lot of other people are having the same issue – they are not receiving the PIN and secure key. He said he was going to ask his colleague and the conversation got cut off as I as using Skype. He never even attempted to call me back.
  • Called back and the lady on the phone blamed everything on Royal Mail again and said they would re-order. I told her this is clearly not Royal Mail since I am receiving all orders just fine and the issue is their department. They are probably not even going into the office as they are supposed to and don’t even get checked. If they don’t physically send them, they never arrive obviously. She said she would re-order them. What is the point? So we just keep re-ordering until the end of time?? The customer care doesn’t give a flying f*** do they? What they are supposed to do is check with this department to ensure things are being sent especially if others are having the same issue. But no, they just keep hitting the “re-send” button over and over and over. APPALLING bank. I said I was utterly fed up and to just close the account. She said she has sent the request and tomorrow the account will be closed. Very quick as I don’t have any dinero there anyway.

So, basically the account lasted 2 weeks and it was closed before it was even used. I feel rather disappointed because I am now back to Square ONE. I can’t use CitiBank because I don’t have £200,000 so the options are pretty much over. I have had my HSBC UK account since 2013 and I have always found their customer quite horrific but bow they have reached ROCK BOTTOM. Ever since this “Coronavirus” they have cut services, hired horrific customer service people, you name it. Sorry but it is quite a s*t service considering I was going to transfer over 131,000 EUR, being then a Premiere customer. Not too much but still enough to deserve a better service.

Sorry for venting but I feel really disappointed and not sure what other options I have



Stella
 
What a horror story, sorry to hear that it ended that bad for you. I was expecting much more from one of the worlds leading banks.

So you don't have any real alternative to this bank, I mean, you live in London there must be a dozen street banks willing to take on as their customer?
 
HSBC is trash, all over the world, unless you got your account 10 years ago and are "grandfathered" in. Sorry to hear this happened to you.
 
Dear all thank you for your replies. Good grief yeah the reviews are horrible i have been a customer with them since March 2013 so almost 8 years but in the UK. They’ve always been bad but now, like I said above, now they’ve really reached rock bottom. They are blaming everything on the “Coronavirus” and the “Royal Mail”. They said, it’s because of the situation in Jersey and UK. Jersey was barely even affected during the first wave, they opened back up 2 months before we did here. Seriously?!? I may be wrong but give it ten years and they’ll be in serious trouble
 
I personally am very happy with HSBC Expat. The signup was smooth, but the key generator did take some time. And correct, they only have debit cards in USD and GBP and not EUR (which is the currency I mainly use). Besides from eBanking being outdated from what I am used to, I have no problem with their services. I had to get in contact with them once by phone, and yes, that was a pain in the a*s. And correct that they don't call back if the line is disconnected, but I've seen that with other banks also :)

I am courious what other Expat bank is recommended? I see Martin saying Standard Bank, but I also remember reading on this forum, that only 1 bank has SEPA in Jersey and I think that was Barcleys. But if it's correct I don't know? I should say that I am not from the UK and I don't live there, so maybe different options.
 
honestly OP, you overreacted. this is pretty normal and doesn't sound like the onboarding was too complicated.
after all that work i would have at least kept the account. HSBC Jersey is just another bank that can serve your purpose, with a rather bad overall customer experience. this is popular internet knowledge.
 
Yeah too bad I’m not actually ready to hand over 100k to a bank that’s cut more than half of their services over a 0.5% IFR virus that’s been going on for 8 MONTHS. Not exactly a week in my book. Still can’t get their crap together despite all other banks still working fine and offering all services at the same speed as before the pharmaceutical pandemic. Not ready to hand that much money to a bank with no customer service. What if something happens? Clearly they give zero f*s. So yeah overreacting my sweet batonka. Why don’t you give them your money? Spoiler alert: if you already have, then you’re dumber than Dumbo
 
actually it's just 50k GBP minimum initial deposit to open in Jersey, and then from there you can open rather easily in many other of their jurisdictions, without additional minimum deposits. should you need that option. it serves a purpose for me and if it doesn't for you, fair enough.